@cengland0 yes. Would have jumped on this if it were available in white. I got some other Hue bulbs on sale that we’re this yellowy colour that I’ve put in places I don’t care it. They are great. But I want real light in my living spaces.
For anyone that wants an old fashioned look back.before.we had white light capable bulbs these work. Some people still prefer yellow light.
@AlabamaGal most other-than-wifi smarthome products (zigbee, z-wave, hue) require a hub of some sort that is usually wired to your home network. Once you have the hub the devices all create a mesh network with each other and the hub so they can communicate through the whole home.
@AlabamaGal All Phillip Hue require a bridge hard connected to a hub. Zigbee bulbs are a good alternative as most hubs support Zigbee or you can get a cheap Zigbee hub. Bulbs can be found pretty easily for <$10 and often quite a bit less if you watch for deals. I got a 4 pack of dimmables for $28 a month or two ago and use them and some other Zigbee bulbs with a SmartThings hub through nVidia Shield. Works great.
LIFX makes an excellent line of bulbs that require no hubs and connect directly to wi-fi. They are, however, only available as full color range lights and are fairly expensive at $60 each. Sale price is $39.99 to $53.99 regularly. I have two in places where I wanted the color change capability and they work quite well. The LIFX app is quite good, I have found it more responsive and feature rich than the Philips Hue app and they integrate well with my Alexa enabled speakers.
@Willijs3 I love the idea of the smart home. What I hate is that literally everything involved in setting one up today involves either a) giving up any remaining security you had on your home network b) using some megacorp’s always-on always-listening device c) spending a shedload of money and/or d) a ridiculous amount of work to get around the first three.
Did you know there are crappy “smart bulbs” out there that have a built-in unencrypted Wi-fi network (that you cannot turn off or secure) that they use to distribute your secure Wi-fi network’s keys to each other — and anyone else who happens to be listening? Even implementations that can be secured often aren’t out of the box.
Philips of course from the beginning made a hub that worked great with Zigbee devices. Then they pushed a firmware update that cut off new Zigbee connections and only allowed new Hue bulbs and others Philips had tested. They backtracked after that blew up in their face, but still, why would I believe any interoperability promises from them?
Affordable smart cameras (like basically all the ones you see on Meh) most often use a cloud service to work with remote access. Sometimes that cloud service exposes your camera feed on an unencrypted endpoint in China.
We’re already seeing ads inadvertently (or by design) activating smart agents like Alexa — so far to humorous effect, mostly, but how long is it before dodgy video ads do it maliciously?
I used to work with Matthew Garrett, who takes an interest in the security of this stuff. Spoiler alert: it’s all terrible and the fact that there aren’t massive smart-home hacks already hitting the news means either it’s just not interesting to hackers on a large scale yet, or it is and we’re just not hearing about it. But the barn door itself is wide open with a big sign on it that says “Please come in and make yourself at home”.
That’s what I hate. And that’s why my TV, all my light bulbs and switches, and all my stereo gear are still dumb as a box of rocks.
@kensey Your smart home can be as secure or as unsecure as you want it to be. It all depends on how much effort you want to put into it. The more “plug&play” the device, the less secure it will be (in most cases).
And in any case, if someone wants to take the time to hack through multiple firewalls and crack multiple passwords just so they can turn on and off my lightbulbs like a spooky ghost, I say go for it. It’s not like my bank account is linked to my lightbulbs.
@Willijs3 My point is it often doesn’t take any levels of hacking, just scanning the net for devices that set up backdoors straight into your network. Then they can use exploits to infect vulnerable devices directly, and the vast majority of these things never get updated. Many can’t be.
One thing I wish I had known with smart bulbs (before I bought this kit last time it was offered) is that the maximum lumens you can get is only the equivalent of 60W incandescent. They simply do not make any that are brighter. Likely due to excessive heat and/or electronic interference with WiFi signal. That and you have to leave the switch on all the time (a little more obvious).
My suggestion is, if you’re capable and your home wiring includes a neutral wire to the switch itself, to replace the switch with a smart switch. Then you don’t have to worry about turning it off at the switch and you can use just about any fixture or bulb.
@zxinfinity exactly- I found awesome mini-smart plugs for $8 that don’t block the other plug on a duplex outlets, and the linking process is easier than the hub thing- and from there I simply plugged in whatever I wanted (the coffee maker- it’s awesome asking Alexa to make me coffee) without regard to wattage or bulb type.
The Hue platform will fade to black in mainstream and cling to it’s corner niche market with a death grip.
@cinoclav a Chinese company- lightinthebox.com regularly sells 'em for $9-$11, but puts 'em on sale once in awhile. Amazon’ll have 'em for around $35 for a 3 pack with much faster delivery times for obvious reasons. Search “smart plugs” and they’ll turn up. They’re round, btw…
If these were daylight bulbs, I’d be grabbing. 2700k would be okay for my bedroom, but those are all GU10 bulbs on overhead fixtures (which rarely get used) except for one lamp which already has a smart switch associated with it. Oh, and the closet but that has florescent tubes and is also rarely used, so I expect the pair in it to last me at least another 10 years.
@cengland0 I tried changing my light I my living room to a daylight bulb. I got confused and thought I left the curtain open. I don’t usually go above 3000k unless it’s the kitchen or garage. Too harsh for relaxing.
@jmbunkin You replace the LED itself. You replace the driver board. You fix the radio controller in the smart tech. You fix a lose connection at the socket. And that’s not even really thinking about it.
@lichme Thanks, loaded up on a couple more switches and motion sensors.
I just discovered this weekend the motion sensors have an unmentioned temperature gauge (which works with Siri if you say “what’s the temperature in the basement)?” You can’t (yet) trigger actions on temperatures but it’s still handy.
@dave Last week I purchased an Ecobee 3 smart themostat from Costco for $200. It came with 3 remote temp sensors that work with Alexa. It works with my SmartThings (with WebCore) hub also, which allows you to trigger actions based off of temp. Example: If living room is too cold, turn on the fireplace etc).
Over priced propriety tech. I’m trying to stay as open protocol as I can which seems to be z-wave (plus) and zigbee. Both are widely supported at the same time out of the box by lots of hubs and controllers.
If you are looking for colored lights for the same price go to morningsave. They are Merkury Brand not Phillips.
2-PACK: MERKURY INNOVATION WIFI LED SMART BULBS…purchased then a couple of days ago. Work with the geeni app and Amazon Alexa.MERKURY Times TWO at MORNINGSAVE