@kdemo You are doing better than I was. Mine died at 25 years and 3 mo (threw and engine had an unfixable problem and not worth putting a new engine in it - dodge grand caravan - already getting many parts for repair from the junk yard). I had just bought a life time antique auto place rather than a one year one too. Go figure.
@kdemo As long as you aren’t starving then a good thing. Of course nothing stopping you from exiting the car and walking up to the window to pick up.
The best part of mine near the end of its life is my kid learned to drive on it and not something that a dent here or there would matter. In an empty parking lot she managed to back into a light post. Dented a bumper a bit and just added character. I took care of the surface roof rust by sanding and then spray painting metal primer. The gray almost matched the faded light blue. And when a pissed off student went down a row of faculty cars and stabbed holes in the metal I just filled the hole with clear bathroom sealant from a tube. Never rusted there. Added character. LOL.
@sicc574 Because taking away a father’s driving privileges (a requirement to remain employed or have a side hustle like Uber/Lyft/Door Dash/etc.) is the best way to help their kids get the financial support they need and the father to pay the ransom to “visit” his children, right?
@mike808 I actually was hired at the local casino to drive their shuttle bus( I have previously driven school bus, had an Aramark driving laundry route and drove myself around fixing commercial and residential internet customers for the local internet company)but when the casino sent my name in to their insurance company, they said they couldn’t insure me because my license had been suspended in they last four years. They wouldn’t even try to hear the fact that the only reason it was suspended was past due child support. In a nutshell thats been the way my life has gone since 2013 when she, unbeknownst to me and without much of a reason, packed up our two sons and headed back to where she came from, out of state, 538 miles away…FML!
Currently, I drive well over a 1,000 miles/week, so I need utmost reliability. Which means that once they start acting up with too many non-maintenance-related issues (for my last car that was about 280k miles), I start shopping. Mind you, I can fix just about anything from bulbs to a complete tear-down, but I just don’t have the time for bigger repairs anymore, and reasonably priced mechanics are either inept or too busy. No sense in buying new though. There are a handful of off-lease dealers in the country that just about every car in stock is a solid good deal, still under warranty (average of 20k to 60k miles) and you can tell the business model is to make their profit by moving a ridiculous amount of cars, not by ripping each individual off. Bought my last two cars this way and can’t imagine every going to a traditional sales-reps-on-commission dealer (only did that once back in 2005 and I used the technique of faxing my offer to dozens of places after researching invoice prices and spiffs to a penny and added a few hundred bucks for their profit. Most replied with insults, the bulk of the rest tried to haggle. Two said yes right at month-end. As great a deal as that got me, I still prefer off-lease).
2 kids in college, so here’s what I’ve got:
Car 1: Bought new. 2008, 290k miles
Car 2: Bought new 2008, 240k miles
Car 3: Bought with 290k miles in 2017 (1998 model). Currently 315k miles
Car 4: Bought last year with 85k miles (2013 model). Currently with 105k miles.
@macromeh I commute one direction, my wife a different direction. The good news is that it’s all rural, so even though it’s lots of miles, it’s not that much time. And I take care of my cars so they last a long time.
Have never bought a new car, though I did by a demo once (remember when that was a thing?) with about 2k miles on it.
Generally buy my cars used with about 50K on them and drive them til the wheels fall off. So far that includes (in random order)
a '65? Chevy Impala SS (my first car)
A Chevy Astrovan (with a 5 speed amnual transmission!)
A Dodge Caravan
A Plymouth Reliant
A Geo Metro convertible
A Pontiac Sunfire convertible
A Subaru wagon
A Mercury Bobcat wagon
A Honda Civic
A Datsun Pickup
Another Datsun pickup
A Fiat sedan
an Izsuzu pickup
Dodge Tradesman 200 custom van
Currently driving a 2003 Vibe with 250K and a 2008 Honda Fit with about 95K.
So yeah, I’m not in the market right now (besides, I’ll most likely end up with my Mom’s 2008 Ford Focus,which only has about 30K miles on it).
@unksol my general rule of thumb is 15k/150k (I will spend up to $15000 for up to 150000 miles or road use.
So, a car with 100000 miles on it would only be worth $5000 to me. A car with 50000 miles would be worth up to $10000 etc. So far I have been able to make that work for me, and anything over $150k miles is gravy. (Generally my cars have well over 200k before they go tits up). If the car needs a major repair (new motor, new tranny etc.) I factor the ROI at $.10/ mile, so if I spend $1000 on the repair I need to plan to keep the car for at least another 10k miles or it’s time to start with another ‘new(er)’ car.
@chienfou I guess it depends on how you value your time. I never count mine because even though I might spend an entire day once every couple years cursing and bleeding in the drive when I’m done with that day I’m incredibly pleased with myself. Plus the most I’ve ever paid for a car with 100K miles was $1650 and is still going. One before that was $500 with a blown head gasket. And some moron running a red light murdered her.
@unksol I don’t mind doing mechanical work, I just don’t have very good diagnostic skills. If I know what’s wrong I can generally fix it, but often choose not to. Things that get too elaborate (valves, transmission etc) I usually don’t mess with since I don’t really have a good place to do that (dirt driveway, no cement pad to work on so trolley jack is out, shit falls in the dirt etc.) I do my own oil changes, alternators, etc. but if I have to tear down too much of the motor I let it go to the shop. There is lots of available OT at my job, so I can work to make up the $$ and let someone that has a better space do the work.
Besides, while I can do woodworking or plumbing or electrical all day without incident, if I get a set of wrenches out I may as well get the bandaids out too.
The first car I purchased on my own, I had for 12 years. The second car I then had for 14 years. The third car, and one that I currently have, and the only one purchased new (not used), will be 7 years in Sept. I decided that I liked performing regular maintenance and keeping a car clean rather than paying a $300+ car payment every month until death. It’s a great feeling when you pay the car off after 5 years and then have no more car payments…
@InnocuousFarmer hmmm, don’t like cleaning it, eh? I hate cleaning but I like things looking nice, so I’m compelled to clean. My husband put one of the cats in the back seat to go to the vet, without the carrier, and she peed the back seat. (He couldn’t “find” the enormous cat carrier in the closet.) Full bladder pee. $100 for a guy to come out and clean out the entire inside, including washing the seats. Now 3+ years later and car smells great and NO cat pee smell! My husband was saying “we’re going to have to buy a new car; that smell will never come out.” haha You won’t get a new car (new car payments for 5 years) that easy, buddy!
At least you didn’t have your kids leave crayons in the seat cracks and cup holders which then promptly melt in this summer heat in a parking lot somewhere and permanently stain everything.
@LisaCS Hahah, surprising to know that smell is exorcisable. My car doesn’t smell too bad, I hope. Kind of dusty, a little rusty underneath. Well, and a bit on the back. And there’s this scraped up dent in one of the doors. Cat urine though, that’d be intolerable.
@InnocuousFarmer@mike808 Ugh! Or worse, they spill milk you never knew they spilled and the summer heat makes the car smell like raw sewage after a couple days. Been there too. At least the milk cleaned up pretty good. But crayons… that’s a whole new level Hell I never had the displeasure of visiting…
@kittykat9180 Pretty similar, 8 years, 75k. I figure give it another 5-8 years. I drive manual, and know that by the time I get my next car, that’s very unlikely to be an option. My hope is that it lasts long enough that everything’s self driving. I figure if I can’t drive with my stick shift, I might as well not be in control at all.
Depends. My current car is a 2005 in near perfect condition, I just replace what needs to be replaced. I also have a 2017 Sportwagen. What I won’t do is buy a car from a dealer ever again. They suck, and their rule number one is fuck the customer, and they don’t even buy you dinner afterward.
Need to upgrade to 200A electric service at the house before I pull the trigger on a Tesla. Waiting for a 9yo Sonata I bought new w/ 140K on it (factory engine replacement under warranty at 95!) to start needing significant repairs.
About to hit 200,000 miles on my VW. It’s been a very dependable car and I’ve been driving it for something like 13 or 14 years now. I’d rather put money into replacing parts that are worn due to age than buy a newer automobile. It’s a diesel and I’d have a difficult time finding something that gets anywhere near the fuel mileage I get.
@vaxick last month we sold the first VW diesel we owned, a ‘04 Jetta. Loved that car! 240k and totaled twice. Finally gave it up because the automatic tranny went out and the amount of frame rust made us think we wouldn’t get the price of a new tranny out of it in terms of miles driven. Still have an ‘06 with only 185k.
@JnKL that’s too bad you had to give it up. Those MKIV models have the best TDI engine VW ever built. Even have gone up in value in recent times as that engine has become desirable. I have a 2000 Golf with a manual transmission myself. I really haven’t had much issues with rust on mine despite it being a Michigan car. I did finally get the rust near my fenders fixed and eventually I’ll have to replace my hatch door, but that’s about it for rust issues on mine thankfully. Everything else has been fantastic. Seems like every part on that car has gone far longer than it ever should have. The 06 engines are pretty solid, they have a few quirks, and the turbo lag when taking off is a bummer for those of us used to the MKIV engines, but they’re still very solid motors. My folks have a 2005.5 Passat with the same generation motor as your O6. It’s been wonderfully reliable too.
My dream car is a simple R/T challenger with a 6 speed. Currently out of my budget with the payments and what i owe on my current car but a man can dream…
If anything a Harley Davidson Dyna Street Bob is the other one. I dont think ill ever be able to track down my dads that he got rid of but i’d make it look just like his.
My last two cars lasted 8 and 12 years respectively, but only 40k and 68k miles. So when I looked to get another, the dealer says Instead of buying we can get you in a low mileage lease for less than the payments would be. Okay. The next year, he says they need trade-ins, how about another newer one, no change in lease payment, and maybe we’ll do it next year, too. So, for payments as low as if I had an 8 year loan, I get new cars every year. (And free maintenance, too. Haven’t even had to change windshield wipers in a year and a half.)