@Barney They didn’t say WHICH phone… my landline phone (no landline at the moment though) is likely around a 1990’s phone (don’t remember its age). Ancient Bell South push button light tan. Standard issue.
@Barney Are you talking about an old desk phone, landline? They call them ‘box phones’. Square, with push buttons? That’s what I’m looking for. You can’t find them anymore.
@DVDBZN@hchavers “Early corporate predecessors of Nokian Tyres are the Nokia Aktiebolag (Nokia Company) and Suomen Kumitehdas Oy (Finnish Rubber Works Ltd).”
I simply have a long memory!
So new that I haven’t activated it yet? Samsung Note 9. Moving up from Note 4. I always procrastinate activating, thinking I will some how screw it up! Will have to do it by Thursday to get the free noise canceling headphones though!
@reclaimercube I had this phone and REALLY – REALLY tried to give it a chance. But the responsiveness of the iPhone SE $175 ebay (2 years old) was beating the PH-1 and it was embarrassing. As someone who used to be a die-hard Anti-Apple monster - I click “Submit” with mixed feelings. I deserve judgement.
@Rakaim Really and truly I’ve had no issues with it. I’m coming from a Moto z2 force with Moto mods and I swap sims regularly. No issues on either except Clash of Clans burn in on the Moto.
Ummm originally, or how long I’ve had it?
Refurbished Samsung S7. Was a Verizon phone but replaced the software so now it thinks it’s a TMO phone with a Verizon tramp stamp… Bought it from office Depot this spring to use up a bunch of recycling rewards. Loving it so far. Replaced a Moto G.
@chienfou Another S7 here, but I bought mine new and factory unlocked last year. I could have gotten the S8 for only a little more but liked the S7 features better. Another month or so later the S9 came out.
My (and my wife’s) iPhone 6 is still going strong. iOS 12 is supposed to improve performance on older models so I may be able to get another year out of it. Depends on what happens tomorrow, but I don’t feel a great urge to buy a new phone.
@tohar1 In smaller towns, which probably includes Fargo, where all the phone numbers started with the same two digits people didn’t bother with those digits when giving their number to locals. (You still had to dial them though.) I caught the tail end of that when I moved from San Francisco to Davis in 1990. At the time, all the prefixes were either 756 or 758 (I think the university was 757.) Our number was 758-7675 so we told locals our number was 8-PORK.
@SSteve Back when I was a kid (Early to mid 1970’s) we didn’t have to dial the full phone number…just the five digits. Everyone’s number either began w/ a 6 or 9, but that was in a small town in western Minnesota. The phone number & address shown in that picture are super old though…as a matter of fact, the address doesn’t even exist anymore. The business moved to a new location in the 1940’s to the very edge of town, which now is almost centrally located square in the middle of the city’s footprint!! (I work for the company that just recently (2002) bought out Fargo Iron, which is how I’ve found out all this info). Interesting/Dumb fact for the day: The Fargo area now has a bigger footprint than Boston, MA (though nowhere near population density, of course…)
@SSteve @tohar1 I was going to say about the same thing. As a kid in the 70s, we only needed (last) 5 digits, certainly within our small town & those surrounding (but still within 40mi to downtown Chicago). I think if distance was farther but still in same area code, only 7 digits needed. I know local radio & TV ads for carpet, furniture, & car dealers had 7 numbers.
I distinctly remember when my aunt moved 10mi further away & we had to memorize all 10 digits (!) of here new phone no. because it was in a different area code.
@compunaut@SSteve We had relatives in both California & Colorado. Long distance calls used to take anywhere from 15-30 seconds for all the switches to connect after dialing (yes DIALING) the phone number…#GoodTimes
iPhone 7+ bought in late 2016. Last years releases weren’t enough to get me to take advantage of the upgrade plan. Planning on the XS Max after tomorrow’s announcement. Kind of hating that they went with X instead of Ten last year. It looks like we’re calling it the Extra Small Max.
@InnocuousFarmer I know it’s supposed to be pronounced ‘ten’ but too many people out there simply refer to it as ‘ex.’ Hence the reason I said I wish they simply called it ‘Ten.’ Going with XS certainly isn’t going to help the problem.
@JT954
Call quality won’t improve with better speakers or microphones. The entire phoneline infrastructure is badly designed for audio, and is decades overdue for an upgrade.
/youtube Tom Scott hold music
@DVDBZN@JT954 Phonelines are designed for audio.
It’s just very specifically designed for human voice.
This applied to the 3.5kHz-wide audio channels on the old copper-line infrastructure, as well as the selection of codecs for digital telephony.
@DVDBZN@JT954 Another thing they don’t touch on in this video is vocoders.
A lot of internal phone systems use vocoders to carry voice information. Vocoders are at the very extreme end of specialization to encode human speech, to the exclusion of other types of sound.
They don’t just filter audio to a narrow band and apply lossy data compression. They attempt to model aspects particular to human speech and just send excitation patterns to replay on the other end and recreate the voice. Look up LPC-10, MELP, and CELP.
These are actually likely the real source of over-the-phone music actually just turning into static.
@ivannabc I just had to buy new phone because my Note 4 was having battery issues. (wouldn’t stay charged) I even had a spare battery but it also went bad.
@benj I’ve been having issues with my battery lately but it’s cuz i went from a massive battery with zero lemon to a reg one and i haven’t let my husband reset my phone yet. At $10 for a new battery every year tho, it’s still cheaper than a new phone for me. Esp what i use it for lol
I am the type of person who will not replace something until is is beyond repair. To that end, my last phone was a Samsung Galaxy S5 that I pretty much ran into the ground from near new. In early July it was finally to the point that it would overheat badly enough to deactivate the camera flash and make it uncomfortable to hold, and it was getting about 3 hours on a brand new battery. I upgraded to a brand new Samsung Galaxy S7 Active (I like my phones waterproof and durable) though I’ve been a bit trigger-shy with this one as far as dunking it, because of some rumblings I’ve heard about the waterproofing not working. Otherwise it’s been a great phone so far, just like the one it replaced.
@PooltoyWolf I have a S7 Active, the waterproofiness didn’t work at all. The screen gave up the ghost minutes after putting it in water. Samsung replaced the whole phone for free though.
@RateControl Thanks for the experience input! Apparently the phones were fine after a certain build date, and there’s supposed to be various methods to get your handset to display its manufacturing date on its display, but none of those methods worked for me.
MY PHONE IS OVER 100 YEARS OLD!!! I STILL HAVE TO CRANK IT TO RING THE OPERATOR!!! SAY WHAT YOU WILL, BUT OLD PHONES ARE THE MOST RELIABLE!!! CASE AND POINT, HOW MANY SMART PHONES ARE STILL WORKING AFTER 100 YEARS?!?!?
@AlexJones You selling those in your store with a battery pack and a really long string - oh wait that is the two tin can style phone long phone cord so that it can be a mobile phone?
c2001 Motorola Timeport P8767 with ultra-cool address-book/battery add-on. Have snapped the antenna off many, many times and am out of them now. Danged if I can figure out how to upload pictures here…
My first was a flip phone that Net10 replaced when G-2 was phased out. They sent me a new flip phone. I still had a landline but need to keep this in the ghetto van (a 1990 that died in 2015) since it broke down a lot. I had that flip phone until summer 2016 (actually I still have it) when someone gave me their old iphone 5s because they bought the big screen iphone 6.
Google Pixel 2. Got it during the great Target/Verizon combo deal last December. My net cost will end up being something like $140, and I really like it for pretty much everything from the form factor to the “actually installing this month’s security update” feature.
I’ll almost always upgrade after 2-3 years because of deteriorating battery life and processing power.
Phone, what phone? Oh, THAT phone. Can we talk about something else?
@Barney They didn’t say WHICH phone… my landline phone (no landline at the moment though) is likely around a 1990’s phone (don’t remember its age). Ancient Bell South push button light tan. Standard issue.
@Barney Want to sell it? Is it in good condition? I’ve been looking for an old box phone.
@Tadlem43 I’m confused.
@Barney Are you talking about an old desk phone, landline? They call them ‘box phones’. Square, with push buttons? That’s what I’m looking for. You can’t find them anymore.
@Tadlem43,
@kidsandliz is the one with the phone, not @Barney.
@Barney @Kidsandliz @RiotDemon Sorry. I just hit reply and asked.
I am tempted to talk about my always reliable Symbian Nokia phone, but I doubt anyone even knows that Nokia made phones.
I bought mine at Radio Shack.
@hchavers
What else would Nokia make?
@DVDBZN Tires!
@DVDBZN Televisions
@DVDBZN @ratman You are thinking about Nokian
@hchavers @ratman
Maybe he was referring to the city of Nokia, where Nokian is headquartered.
@DVDBZN @hchavers “Early corporate predecessors of Nokian Tyres are the Nokia Aktiebolag (Nokia Company) and Suomen Kumitehdas Oy (Finnish Rubber Works Ltd).”
I simply have a long memory!
@DVDBZN @ratman Yes, it is true. Nokian spun off from Nokia and was allowed to keep Nokia in their name.
So new that I haven’t activated it yet? Samsung Note 9. Moving up from Note 4. I always procrastinate activating, thinking I will some how screw it up! Will have to do it by Thursday to get the free noise canceling headphones though!
@benj Ah, a person after my own heart. I’ve been dreading activating my new phone (Moto G6) just because I’m convinced I will screw it up.
Do you like purple?
@Barney Purple is ok but I opted for the blue with the bright yellow S pen on the Note 9.
@Barney @benj there’s a purple one?! Well crap that might get me to upgrade
@Barney @ivannabc Lavender Purple and Blue are only US options at this time!
My phone is old enough that its 30-pin connector still works with the speaker docks sold here.
Launch date Nexus 5. 5 years old next month
I had to get the Essential PH-1 on Prime Day
@reclaimercube I had this phone and REALLY – REALLY tried to give it a chance. But the responsiveness of the iPhone SE $175 ebay (2 years old) was beating the PH-1 and it was embarrassing. As someone who used to be a die-hard Anti-Apple monster - I click “Submit” with mixed feelings. I deserve judgement.
@Rakaim Really and truly I’ve had no issues with it. I’m coming from a Moto z2 force with Moto mods and I swap sims regularly. No issues on either except Clash of Clans burn in on the Moto.
Ummm originally, or how long I’ve had it?
Refurbished Samsung S7. Was a Verizon phone but replaced the software so now it thinks it’s a TMO phone with a Verizon tramp stamp… Bought it from office Depot this spring to use up a bunch of recycling rewards. Loving it so far. Replaced a Moto G.
@chienfou Another S7 here, but I bought mine new and factory unlocked last year. I could have gotten the S8 for only a little more but liked the S7 features better. Another month or so later the S9 came out.
My (and my wife’s) iPhone 6 is still going strong. iOS 12 is supposed to improve performance on older models so I may be able to get another year out of it. Depends on what happens tomorrow, but I don’t feel a great urge to buy a new phone.
@SSteve So what’s your phone number? Anything like this old advertising ruler/level I found at work the other day? (Phone 22429)
@tohar1 In smaller towns, which probably includes Fargo, where all the phone numbers started with the same two digits people didn’t bother with those digits when giving their number to locals. (You still had to dial them though.) I caught the tail end of that when I moved from San Francisco to Davis in 1990. At the time, all the prefixes were either 756 or 758 (I think the university was 757.) Our number was 758-7675 so we told locals our number was 8-PORK.
@SSteve Back when I was a kid (Early to mid 1970’s) we didn’t have to dial the full phone number…just the five digits. Everyone’s number either began w/ a 6 or 9, but that was in a small town in western Minnesota. The phone number & address shown in that picture are super old though…as a matter of fact, the address doesn’t even exist anymore. The business moved to a new location in the 1940’s to the very edge of town, which now is almost centrally located square in the middle of the city’s footprint!! (I work for the company that just recently (2002) bought out Fargo Iron, which is how I’ve found out all this info). Interesting/Dumb fact for the day: The Fargo area now has a bigger footprint than Boston, MA (though nowhere near population density, of course…)
@SSteve
@tohar1 I was going to say about the same thing. As a kid in the 70s, we only needed (last) 5 digits, certainly within our small town & those surrounding (but still within 40mi to downtown Chicago). I think if distance was farther but still in same area code, only 7 digits needed. I know local radio & TV ads for carpet, furniture, & car dealers had 7 numbers.
I distinctly remember when my aunt moved 10mi further away & we had to memorize all 10 digits (!) of here new phone no. because it was in a different area code.
@compunaut @SSteve We had relatives in both California & Colorado. Long distance calls used to take anywhere from 15-30 seconds for all the switches to connect after dialing (yes DIALING) the phone number…#GoodTimes
iPhone 6s, just getting to three years old. Aside from dings, still works like new. (headphone jack, privacy, blah blah blah.)
iPhone 7+ bought in late 2016. Last years releases weren’t enough to get me to take advantage of the upgrade plan. Planning on the XS Max after tomorrow’s announcement. Kind of hating that they went with X instead of Ten last year. It looks like we’re calling it the Extra Small Max.
@cinoclav The “X” is pronounced “Ten”, though. Shirley, that counts for something.
I look forward to referring to the “iPhone Excess”, in conversation, possibly without regard for which model we’re talking about.
@cinoclav they took the ‘X’ away from Macintosh (Mac OS-X got shriven)… guess so they could use it on the phones…
@InnocuousFarmer I know it’s supposed to be pronounced ‘ten’ but too many people out there simply refer to it as ‘ex.’ Hence the reason I said I wish they simply called it ‘Ten.’ Going with XS certainly isn’t going to help the problem.
Sanyo SCP-2700 because they can’t throw me out of my 20 year old phone plan and I’m also really obstinate.
(To be fair, the screen dies and resurrects from time to time so I may segue over to the iPhone 5 I use as a tablet to play games.)
LG Tribute HD. It’s actually my first smartphone from back in May. Used it since June. It’s nice, but I wish the speaker for calls was better.
@JT954
Call quality won’t improve with better speakers or microphones. The entire phoneline infrastructure is badly designed for audio, and is decades overdue for an upgrade.
/youtube Tom Scott hold music
@DVDBZN @JT954 Phonelines are designed for audio.
It’s just very specifically designed for human voice.
This applied to the 3.5kHz-wide audio channels on the old copper-line infrastructure, as well as the selection of codecs for digital telephony.
@DVDBZN @JT954 Another thing they don’t touch on in this video is vocoders.
A lot of internal phone systems use vocoders to carry voice information. Vocoders are at the very extreme end of specialization to encode human speech, to the exclusion of other types of sound.
They don’t just filter audio to a narrow band and apply lossy data compression. They attempt to model aspects particular to human speech and just send excitation patterns to replay on the other end and recreate the voice. Look up LPC-10, MELP, and CELP.
These are actually likely the real source of over-the-phone music actually just turning into static.
My phone is brand new because my old phone broke in July. Otherwise I’d have a pretty old phone.
I have a note 4 and i love it. My husband keeps saying i need a new phone but why? This one works just fine.
@ivannabc I just had to buy new phone because my Note 4 was having battery issues. (wouldn’t stay charged) I even had a spare battery but it also went bad.
@benj I’ve been having issues with my battery lately but it’s cuz i went from a massive battery with zero lemon to a reg one and i haven’t let my husband reset my phone yet. At $10 for a new battery every year tho, it’s still cheaper than a new phone for me. Esp what i use it for lol
wow pretty surprised how new you peoples phones are
(what do you mean “you people”?)
I bounce between a Lumia icon and Lumia 735. Go windows!
@kruzen I’m still using my 640XL (Amazon trade-in value of $1.97 maximum) because I’m too lazy to port my data over.
@kruzen @narfcake Porting data is like herding cats.
@narfcake I actually prefer the device to anything else. Platform is too good. Just wish the apps weren’t all slowly breaking…
@kruzen What are apps?
/s
The house phone was bought at Gemco in the 1980s. Its a GE and works great.
The mobiles are both from 2015. Not expecting to update until next year.
I am the type of person who will not replace something until is is beyond repair. To that end, my last phone was a Samsung Galaxy S5 that I pretty much ran into the ground from near new. In early July it was finally to the point that it would overheat badly enough to deactivate the camera flash and make it uncomfortable to hold, and it was getting about 3 hours on a brand new battery. I upgraded to a brand new Samsung Galaxy S7 Active (I like my phones waterproof and durable) though I’ve been a bit trigger-shy with this one as far as dunking it, because of some rumblings I’ve heard about the waterproofing not working. Otherwise it’s been a great phone so far, just like the one it replaced.
@PooltoyWolf I have a S7 Active, the waterproofiness didn’t work at all. The screen gave up the ghost minutes after putting it in water. Samsung replaced the whole phone for free though.
@RateControl Thanks for the experience input! Apparently the phones were fine after a certain build date, and there’s supposed to be various methods to get your handset to display its manufacturing date on its display, but none of those methods worked for me.
It’s new enough, it was the first phone to get the Android 9 update. Then again, it’s a Google Pixel 2. I have had it for less than 4 months.
On that note, this is the first phone I have had that had the latest software. I’m usually way behind.
MY PHONE IS OVER 100 YEARS OLD!!! I STILL HAVE TO CRANK IT TO RING THE OPERATOR!!! SAY WHAT YOU WILL, BUT OLD PHONES ARE THE MOST RELIABLE!!! CASE AND POINT, HOW MANY SMART PHONES ARE STILL WORKING AFTER 100 YEARS?!?!?
@AlexJones You selling those in your store with a battery pack and a really
long string - oh wait that is the two tin can style phonelong phone cord so that it can be a mobile phone?iPhone 4s; at LEAST 4 years old, maybe more. Bought it used/refurb’d almost a yr ago to replace iPhone 4 I lost.
LG V20, got it last year, hoping to upgrade next year.
c2001 Motorola Timeport P8767 with ultra-cool address-book/battery add-on. Have snapped the antenna off many, many times and am out of them now. Danged if I can figure out how to upload pictures here…
I don’t rightly know, but I’ve had it for a few years and the person who owned it before me had it a few years, so probably in the 5-10yr range?
My first was a flip phone that Net10 replaced when G-2 was phased out. They sent me a new flip phone. I still had a landline but need to keep this in the ghetto van (a 1990 that died in 2015) since it broke down a lot. I had that flip phone until summer 2016 (actually I still have it) when someone gave me their old iphone 5s because they bought the big screen iphone 6.
Galaxy S5. Happier with it than any I’ve ever had.
Samsung Galaxy S5. But I’m looking at tablets that also make phone calls instead.
Google Pixel 2. Got it during the great Target/Verizon combo deal last December. My net cost will end up being something like $140, and I really like it for pretty much everything from the form factor to the “actually installing this month’s security update” feature.
I’ll almost always upgrade after 2-3 years because of deteriorating battery life and processing power.
LG G5 with a dead fingerprint reader and a malfunctioning camera. I am eyeballing the new Note 9.
Moto E4, best $40 i ever spent!