@daveinwarsh counterpoint - my wife only qualified for PRK, a more scrapey based version of lasik. Her distance vision improved greatly, her near vision decreased significantly, and she had to have the procedure repeated 12 months out as the first go just stopped working. Weigh your personal risk / reward calculation with this surgery.
@melonscoop Wow! I wonder what happened.
I’m needing ‘readers’ for a few years now, but then I’m older than dirt & it’s time for them.
My distance vision has never been worse then 20/20 all these decades. My brother & my wife also went to the same Lasik guy about when I did & it’s been good for them also.
I did go to an extremely highly rated place (in San Diego) he also fixed vision for many of the Chargers football team.
@daveinwarsh I got mine in 1996. Had to go to Canada because it wasn’t FDA approved yet for someone of my prescription. One of the pioneers of the procedure. Last time I had an eye exam the doctor said he could only barely tell under magnification that I’d had it done. So I guess my doctor lived up to his rep. And yes, I’m at readers age too. Hate them! But every day thankful I can function without bumping into things and seeing the world in a fog.
@daveinwarsh@melonscoop My BF had it’s before we started dating, he had to get glasses about 7 years later, and because he didn’t go see the doctor every year afterwards, he didn’t qualify for free follow up surgery. His eyes are just slowly getting worse like they did before the surgery. He also has massive problems with glare and I have to drive us at night. You couldn’t pay me to have that surgery.
@daveinwarsh@Fuzzalini@melonscoop prk used to be a… Different option and required for some jobs. LASIK has improved a lot since then and now it’s approved for most. When I got mine probly 5 year ago LASIK was pretty well approved and I had use it or lose it in an hra so… I used it and paid the rest myself.
Glare is a real concern if it gets botched… and I really couldnt be sure the first year if it was worse or not at night… but I’m pretty happy with it now. Would def not use a cheap one.
Eyesight always goes down. With age and we will probably all need reading glasses. But after two decades of glasses and contacts I’ll take 15 to 20 without and much better eyesight when it comes.
I could not see jack shit without my glasses before. If your vision isn’t that bad idk.
Depends. There was one year that my prescription was so different that I felt sick for a few weeks. I ended up switching doctors after that because even though I went back and noted my issues, they ordered new lenses after changing stuff up and it still didn’t feel right. This is after years of my prescription not changing much.
I’m on my second year with my new doctor and my new glasses should be in soon. I’m hoping they are as easy of a transition as they were last year.
@RiotDemon I had a set of lenses replaced because I was still sick after a week. When my glasses broke recently and I had to go back to my old pair I felt awful for a few days and then again after I got my current ones fixed.
New glasses are the worst. Well maybe my eyes are the worst.
@RiotDemon I have astigmatism- it may be a lot of the problem. But I’m also really nearsighted which causes distortions at the edges of the lenses and used to make the floor look curved which messed with my brain until it got used to it. Now I have progressive bifocals. I wish contact lenses were more comfortable.
@sammydog01 I’m really glad that my prescription is low. I can do most things without glasses if I absolutely had to. It just makes me tired because I squint a lot looking far distances. I can’t really read street sign names either. I can pass the eye exam at the dmv though without glasses. I choose not to drive without them.
@RiotDemon@sammydog01 I am extremely nearsighted as well and any of the newer lenses like polycarbonate make me ill. It’s all that distortion. Sounds like a pattern. So I am relegated to plastic. A lot thicker and heavier, but it beats wanting to hurl every time I put my glasses on.
@RiotDemon@sammydog01 I had my standard glasses/contacts for years and then my new eye doc diagnosed me with astigmatism and those contact lenses he recommended just did not work at all… I tried to adjust for a couple weeks but they just would not sit right in my eyeball and gave me headaches and… Idk if it was a decade of getting used to it but it was all blurrier and hurt. I tried but then I went back to my old ones
I’m the only person in my family that doesn’t need glasses. However, I have considered wearing computer glasses to eliminate any issues with blue light.
@JT954@yakkoTDI I’m sure I paid WAY too much for them, but I got computer glasses the last time I was at the eye doctor. I was skeptical but since I had a huge vision benefit at the time, decided to try them out. At first, they bugged me as they seemed to only focus very close, buy my eyes adjusted quickly and I can literally feel the relief from eye strain the moment I put them on. Since really ALL I do anymore for work is in front of a screen, I cannot imagine being without them. And they work great for reading, whenever I get a moment free with a book…
@JT954 in general yellow tinged glasses help with that. I have shooting glasses with they but I’m literally in a chair twelve hours a day. And a couple watching tv to finally relax…
You know I do feel eye strain. I was going to say it wasn’t impacting me and it shouldn’t normally but maybe it is
For the first time, I ordered glasses online from eyebuydirect. So much cheaper than the stores at the mall. This is the first pair I’ve ever had that didn’t feel too heavy and didn’t slide down all the time.
@ironcheftoni I bought some online a couple years back from zenni.com I think? And they were the easiest and least expensive of any of my glasses. And fit the best of the couple pair I use right now!
@ironcheftoni I literally just got a new pair from EyeBuyDirect yesterday, and they do feel a bit strange, but I know that will only last another day or so. I’ve had really good luck with their glasses, and the prices are hard to beat.
@ahacksaw exactly! Brick and mortar stores, never got out the door for less than $300. And that was with vision insurance which is a joke. For eyebuydirect.com, $165 for the thinnest progressive lenses and rimless frames. Plus insurance reimbursed me $85 of that.
My only complaint is that the frames are pretty bare bones on features. Spring hinges would be nice so I just have to be more careful with them.
@ahacksaw@ironcheftoni I’m lucky. My vision insurance is better than most. The person looking up my insurance is always super surprised.
For exam and glasses with polycarbonate lenses, transitions, anti glare, anti scratch, and blue light filter it cost me $61 for my current pair and I can get new glasses every year. Used to be new lenses every year but frames every two. I might get new sunglasses this year since it’s been a while since I got a pair. Transitions usually work fine for me but sunglasses are nice for the car or when I’m going to be in the sun all day.
@ironcheftoni@RiotDemon I have decent vision insurance, but I’m extremely nearsighted, so I need the highest index lenses, and I’m older than dirt so I also need progressives. The first pair of progressives I ever got, at LensCrafters, were around $900 before insurance. With the lower prices at online stores, I can have a backup pair and prescription sunglasses without breaking the bank.
@ahacksaw@ironcheftoni Since you asked here’s my story about spring hinge glasses. The spring broke. Just a tiny little piece of metal. I called the optometrist- need to replace the frames, out of warranty at 2-1/2 years old. $300. FUCKERS! I found the same frame online for $119 and replaced the arm myself. Had it adjusted at Target. Spring frames are a big nope for me next time.
@ironcheftoni I bought two from different sites. Eyebuydirect and goggles4u. Last time I bought them. Admittedly it’s been 4-5 years since I got lasik now but I liked both frames, had no problems with the prescription or astigmatism on the lenses and used both regularly for a couple years.
If you are sticking with glasses my experience with both companies. Which was only once. Was great. They were also single prescription lenses. Not bifocals. But there are probably other companies out there too and it’s not they hard to make/coat quality plastic lenses to spec.
I don’t think you should not support your eye doctor. But paying for branded frames… Over the lens. Cause show room? Nope.
@ironcheftoni A few years ago I had some FSA money to burn so I got got a pair from 39glasses, although they were closer to $150 because progressive.
The lenses were fine but the frames were cheap and broke after about a year.
I also got sunglasses from Warby Parker. I love those. They cost more, but they send you frames to try on for free.
My vision plan was Eyemed, which is owned by Luxottica. They punish you for going out of network (meaning to stores they don’t own and buying frames they don’t make).
Later I got my regular glasses from Warby Parker. My new vision plan actually considers them in network.
I love these, too. My only regret is that I got the same frames as my sunglasses and photo-adaptive lenses. Sometimes in the car it’s hard to tell which is which.
@ironcheftoni@unksol I have had mixed results from goggles4u. The first time I ordered, maybe nine years ago, from them, I tried to get some of their super-cheap frames. I think they were under $10. I wanted to try cheap ones before trying a nicer set. The lenses were awful, and definitely did not match my prescription. I know I didn’t just mess up entering my prescription because out of the three pairs I ordered one actually worked.
Then, a couple of years ago I decided to try them again for a cheap pair of sunglasses. They had some special discount and they were around $21 out the door. I didn’t bother getting higher-index lenses because I didn’t mind thick lenses on plastic framed sunglasses. These have been just fine, the lenses are correct, and I wear them regularly.
@RiotDemon that sounds like when I say how much my company matches 401k contributions (110% of first 6%). Our insurance may be crappy but I’m set for retirement
My wife got RK surgery about 30 years ago, before Lasik was available. (I wisely got her to marry me before she got her vision corrected!) She has been quite happy with the result - she still only needs glasses while driving at night.
Her sister got Lasik a few years later. Her vision improved for a couple years afterwards, but then she needed glasses again full-time.
@macromeh I think they still do the other surgery, although many choose lasik now. i believe it’s still something those who want it can still seek out.
just got expensive bifocal glasses (why does it require the leg of your firstborn???) and chose not to get progressives because I don’t want to have the mid vision lens just distance and then reading below. wish me luck with my expensive geeky coke bottle glasses hope they help with reading.
I got my first progressives over ten years ago. I had to learn to turn my head when walking down stairs or down a grocery store aisle, but my brain quickly took over knowing which part of the lens to look through, so I don’t have to think about it.
The technology for seeing through the sides has also improved.
PS look down when walking down stairs with those bifocals.
One of my pairs of glasses I fell more than once on the stairs. Something happened to the lenses as they tapered to the bottom, and I had poor depth perception on stairs. Once I figured this out I had to look directly at the stairs instead of looking down. beware!
New prescriptions always feel a little bit too strong for my eyes - as if my eyes aren’t able to handle extreme resolution without some strain (I can see perfectly through the new glasses; it just feels like I’m straining my eyes to do so). So for my last couple new prescriptions I ended up wearing my old glasses most of the time and occasionally wearing the new glasses until I eventually ended up wearing the new glasses more often.
New glasses also always make me feel taller for some reason?
The first few years I wore glasses my prescription was changing rapidly, so every time I got an update it was an incredible experience of seeing the world so much more clearly and having significant changes to my depth perception.
Since my prescription has largely stabilized they just feel a little weird for a few days.
I have been wearing glasses since my 20’s. I was an accountant working in a poorly lit corporate office. My eyes are pretty stable, so new glasses basically are scratch free and clean. Biggest change was when I got high-end prescription sunglasses last year.
I got Lasik decades ago. Still glad I did it.
@daveinwarsh counterpoint - my wife only qualified for PRK, a more scrapey based version of lasik. Her distance vision improved greatly, her near vision decreased significantly, and she had to have the procedure repeated 12 months out as the first go just stopped working. Weigh your personal risk / reward calculation with this surgery.
I’m glad your experience was easy and effective!
@melonscoop Wow! I wonder what happened.
I’m needing ‘readers’ for a few years now, but then I’m older than dirt & it’s time for them.
My distance vision has never been worse then 20/20 all these decades. My brother & my wife also went to the same Lasik guy about when I did & it’s been good for them also.
I did go to an extremely highly rated place (in San Diego) he also fixed vision for many of the Chargers football team.
@daveinwarsh I got mine in 1996. Had to go to Canada because it wasn’t FDA approved yet for someone of my prescription. One of the pioneers of the procedure. Last time I had an eye exam the doctor said he could only barely tell under magnification that I’d had it done. So I guess my doctor lived up to his rep. And yes, I’m at readers age too. Hate them! But every day thankful I can function without bumping into things and seeing the world in a fog.
@daveinwarsh @melonscoop My BF had it’s before we started dating, he had to get glasses about 7 years later, and because he didn’t go see the doctor every year afterwards, he didn’t qualify for free follow up surgery. His eyes are just slowly getting worse like they did before the surgery. He also has massive problems with glare and I have to drive us at night. You couldn’t pay me to have that surgery.
@daveinwarsh @Fuzzalini @melonscoop prk used to be a… Different option and required for some jobs. LASIK has improved a lot since then and now it’s approved for most. When I got mine probly 5 year ago LASIK was pretty well approved and I had use it or lose it in an hra so… I used it and paid the rest myself.
Glare is a real concern if it gets botched… and I really couldnt be sure the first year if it was worse or not at night… but I’m pretty happy with it now. Would def not use a cheap one.
Eyesight always goes down. With age and we will probably all need reading glasses. But after two decades of glasses and contacts I’ll take 15 to 20 without and much better eyesight when it comes.
I could not see jack shit without my glasses before. If your vision isn’t that bad idk.
Enjoying it while it lasts
mediocrebot wears glasses??
@Kyeh No. The ants carried them off.
@yakkoTDI Is that why he’s always so pissy about ants?
@Kyeh @yakkoTDI Could it be? m-bot is really…
@yakkoTDI @ybmuG Oh, how charming! Except - Amazon?
@Kyeh @yakkoTDI Exactly! Traitor!
Better focus, no scratches. Everything’s great!
Depends. There was one year that my prescription was so different that I felt sick for a few weeks. I ended up switching doctors after that because even though I went back and noted my issues, they ordered new lenses after changing stuff up and it still didn’t feel right. This is after years of my prescription not changing much.
I’m on my second year with my new doctor and my new glasses should be in soon. I’m hoping they are as easy of a transition as they were last year.
@RiotDemon I had a set of lenses replaced because I was still sick after a week. When my glasses broke recently and I had to go back to my old pair I felt awful for a few days and then again after I got my current ones fixed.
New glasses are the worst. Well maybe my eyes are the worst.
@sammydog01 oh no. That sucks.
My issue is astigmatism. It keeps changing. My prescription isn’t that strong. Usually somewhere between -0.5 and -1.
@RiotDemon I have astigmatism- it may be a lot of the problem. But I’m also really nearsighted which causes distortions at the edges of the lenses and used to make the floor look curved which messed with my brain until it got used to it. Now I have progressive bifocals. I wish contact lenses were more comfortable.
@sammydog01 I’m really glad that my prescription is low. I can do most things without glasses if I absolutely had to. It just makes me tired because I squint a lot looking far distances. I can’t really read street sign names either. I can pass the eye exam at the dmv though without glasses. I choose not to drive without them.
@RiotDemon @sammydog01 I am extremely nearsighted as well and any of the newer lenses like polycarbonate make me ill. It’s all that distortion. Sounds like a pattern. So I am relegated to plastic. A lot thicker and heavier, but it beats wanting to hurl every time I put my glasses on.
@RiotDemon @sammydog01 I had my standard glasses/contacts for years and then my new eye doc diagnosed me with astigmatism and those contact lenses he recommended just did not work at all… I tried to adjust for a couple weeks but they just would not sit right in my eyeball and gave me headaches and… Idk if it was a decade of getting used to it but it was all blurrier and hurt. I tried but then I went back to my old ones
I will disregard directives from our defective robot overlords.
I’m the only person in my family that doesn’t need glasses. However, I have considered wearing computer glasses to eliminate any issues with blue light.
@JT954 Turn the color temp down.
There are some apps that do it for you, it you don’t have that control on your monitor.
(I had one that went to 2500K or so at sunset, based on the date and your latitude. I need to get that one again…)
@JT954 do normal glasses block blue light?
@JT954 @ophidance no. You need a filter. I’m waiting for my new glasses with a filter to see if I notice a difference.
@JT954 You need them now.
@JT954 @yakkoTDI I’m sure I paid WAY too much for them, but I got computer glasses the last time I was at the eye doctor. I was skeptical but since I had a huge vision benefit at the time, decided to try them out. At first, they bugged me as they seemed to only focus very close, buy my eyes adjusted quickly and I can literally feel the relief from eye strain the moment I put them on. Since really ALL I do anymore for work is in front of a screen, I cannot imagine being without them. And they work great for reading, whenever I get a moment free with a book…
@JT954
@JT954 in general yellow tinged glasses help with that. I have shooting glasses with they but I’m literally in a chair twelve hours a day. And a couple watching tv to finally relax…
You know I do feel eye strain. I was going to say it wasn’t impacting me and it shouldn’t normally but maybe it is
@JT954 @unksol bias lighting can help with eye strain, since it keeps your eyes from dilating as much as they do in dark rooms.
Like crutches for the handicapped. Is that the right phrasing in these politically correct times?
For the first time, I ordered glasses online from eyebuydirect. So much cheaper than the stores at the mall. This is the first pair I’ve ever had that didn’t feel too heavy and didn’t slide down all the time.
@ironcheftoni I bought some online a couple years back from zenni.com I think? And they were the easiest and least expensive of any of my glasses. And fit the best of the couple pair I use right now!
@ironcheftoni I literally just got a new pair from EyeBuyDirect yesterday, and they do feel a bit strange, but I know that will only last another day or so. I’ve had really good luck with their glasses, and the prices are hard to beat.
@ahacksaw exactly! Brick and mortar stores, never got out the door for less than $300. And that was with vision insurance which is a joke. For eyebuydirect.com, $165 for the thinnest progressive lenses and rimless frames. Plus insurance reimbursed me $85 of that.
My only complaint is that the frames are pretty bare bones on features. Spring hinges would be nice so I just have to be more careful with them.
@ahacksaw @ironcheftoni I’m lucky. My vision insurance is better than most. The person looking up my insurance is always super surprised.
For exam and glasses with polycarbonate lenses, transitions, anti glare, anti scratch, and blue light filter it cost me $61 for my current pair and I can get new glasses every year. Used to be new lenses every year but frames every two. I might get new sunglasses this year since it’s been a while since I got a pair. Transitions usually work fine for me but sunglasses are nice for the car or when I’m going to be in the sun all day.
@ironcheftoni @RiotDemon I have decent vision insurance, but I’m extremely nearsighted, so I need the highest index lenses, and I’m older than dirt so I also need progressives. The first pair of progressives I ever got, at LensCrafters, were around $900 before insurance. With the lower prices at online stores, I can have a backup pair and prescription sunglasses without breaking the bank.
@ahacksaw @ironcheftoni Since you asked here’s my story about spring hinge glasses. The spring broke. Just a tiny little piece of metal. I called the optometrist- need to replace the frames, out of warranty at 2-1/2 years old. $300. FUCKERS! I found the same frame online for $119 and replaced the arm myself. Had it adjusted at Target. Spring frames are a big nope for me next time.
@ironcheftoni I bought two from different sites. Eyebuydirect and goggles4u. Last time I bought them. Admittedly it’s been 4-5 years since I got lasik now but I liked both frames, had no problems with the prescription or astigmatism on the lenses and used both regularly for a couple years.
If you are sticking with glasses my experience with both companies. Which was only once. Was great. They were also single prescription lenses. Not bifocals. But there are probably other companies out there too and it’s not they hard to make/coat quality plastic lenses to spec.
I don’t think you should not support your eye doctor. But paying for branded frames… Over the lens. Cause show room? Nope.
@ironcheftoni A few years ago I had some FSA money to burn so I got got a pair from 39glasses, although they were closer to $150 because progressive.
The lenses were fine but the frames were cheap and broke after about a year.
I also got sunglasses from Warby Parker. I love those. They cost more, but they send you frames to try on for free.
My vision plan was Eyemed, which is owned by Luxottica. They punish you for going out of network (meaning to stores they don’t own and buying frames they don’t make).
Later I got my regular glasses from Warby Parker. My new vision plan actually considers them in network.
I love these, too. My only regret is that I got the same frames as my sunglasses and photo-adaptive lenses. Sometimes in the car it’s hard to tell which is which.
@ironcheftoni @unksol I have had mixed results from goggles4u. The first time I ordered, maybe nine years ago, from them, I tried to get some of their super-cheap frames. I think they were under $10. I wanted to try cheap ones before trying a nicer set. The lenses were awful, and definitely did not match my prescription. I know I didn’t just mess up entering my prescription because out of the three pairs I ordered one actually worked.
Then, a couple of years ago I decided to try them again for a cheap pair of sunglasses. They had some special discount and they were around $21 out the door. I didn’t bother getting higher-index lenses because I didn’t mind thick lenses on plastic framed sunglasses. These have been just fine, the lenses are correct, and I wear them regularly.
@RiotDemon that sounds like when I say how much my company matches 401k contributions (110% of first 6%). Our insurance may be crappy but I’m set for retirement
My wife got RK surgery about 30 years ago, before Lasik was available. (I wisely got her to marry me before she got her vision corrected!) She has been quite happy with the result - she still only needs glasses while driving at night.
Her sister got Lasik a few years later. Her vision improved for a couple years afterwards, but then she needed glasses again full-time.
@macromeh I think they still do the other surgery, although many choose lasik now. i believe it’s still something those who want it can still seek out.
just got expensive bifocal glasses (why does it require the leg of your firstborn???) and chose not to get progressives because I don’t want to have the mid vision lens just distance and then reading below. wish me luck with my expensive geeky coke bottle glasses
hope they help with reading.
@ophidance Good luck!
@ophidance progressive lenses likely cost more, too.
I got my first progressives over ten years ago. I had to learn to turn my head when walking down stairs or down a grocery store aisle, but my brain quickly took over knowing which part of the lens to look through, so I don’t have to think about it.
The technology for seeing through the sides has also improved.
PS look down when walking down stairs with those bifocals.
@craigthom @ophidance And with progressives some have a wider field of vision than others do. I take a look at that when I choose which lens to pick.
One of my pairs of glasses I fell more than once on the stairs. Something happened to the lenses as they tapered to the bottom, and I had poor depth perception on stairs. Once I figured this out I had to look directly at the stairs instead of looking down. beware!
@ophidance Yep, my glasses made the floor bend if I didn’t look directly at it.
New prescriptions always feel a little bit too strong for my eyes - as if my eyes aren’t able to handle extreme resolution without some strain (I can see perfectly through the new glasses; it just feels like I’m straining my eyes to do so). So for my last couple new prescriptions I ended up wearing my old glasses most of the time and occasionally wearing the new glasses until I eventually ended up wearing the new glasses more often.
New glasses also always make me feel taller for some reason?
Despite my old ones not having any visible scratches or damage, new glasses always feel way clearer, despite getting the same prescription.
The first few years I wore glasses my prescription was changing rapidly, so every time I got an update it was an incredible experience of seeing the world so much more clearly and having significant changes to my depth perception.
Since my prescription has largely stabilized they just feel a little weird for a few days.
I have been wearing glasses since my 20’s. I was an accountant working in a poorly lit corporate office. My eyes are pretty stable, so new glasses basically are scratch free and clean. Biggest change was when I got high-end prescription sunglasses last year.