@narfcake Yeah, my phone is still stuck on Lollipop, so this is almost an improvement. I think my carrier is hoping it will disintegrate so that I buy a new one, but I’ve been a stubborn cheapass about it.
Verizon Wireless was the first to arrive to the 4G LTE race and it has also built its nationwide network based on 700 MHz spectrum, but the primary band for Verizon is band 13. Bands 2 and 4 are used to strengthen the signal in the densely populated urban areas. One important thing to note about Verizon Wireless is that many phones are built specifically for the carrier, including its 4G LTE bands. In other words, the common case is that you will not be able to use an AT&T device on Verizon’s 4G LTE network.
Band 13 is Verizon’s primary band unless you are in an urban area. Band 13 is not supported by this phone.
If I have a Galaxy S4 Mini, how does this compare?
Yes it’s old, slow, and I’m overdue to replace it, I just don’t really care about my cell phone, so I use them til they break. Mine’s currently obnoxiously slow and doesn’t hold charge more than 8 hours on idle, or about an hour of active use.
Have you checked out the Motorola Moto G line? I had a G4 for a while and it was cheap and spry. They’ve beefed up the G5 plus and G6 even more
If you’re feeling particularly cheap, Amazon will knock $50 off if you let them put ads on the lock screen
I still have my Moto G4.
Last time I looked Costco had the unlocked G5 for cheap. They might have the G6, I haven’t looked.
I have a prepaid plan that I’ve had for 15+ years so I pay roughly $100/year for all the cell phone I need.
Thanks folx. I decided to just use the upgrade option I have and go with one of my carrier’s options vs this. Longer battery life and better RAM. (We’re on a family’s plan on verizon, so mostly was just too lazy to hit the store half a mile away to get the one we want)
All I have to say is that their was a random ad with Medicare plans on this page touting $0 deductibles. I most definitely read it as Mediocre Plans and was prepared to pay whatever was necessary for the $0 Mediocre Plan.
Now I’m just disappointed since this deal is meh and The Cleveland Clinic isn’t selling Mediocre Plans.
If there was ever a product on MEH that deserved to be checked on Fakespot it is this Piece Of Crap…
And yes…a SOLID F…
Why you would buy this, with absolutely NO IDEA if it will even work on any network (or even work at all) when there are so many phones to choose from on various services for 100 is beyond me…Unless, of course, you need a teething ring for your pet tiger…
Here is a list of phones that also use this CPU (really the whole system on a chip, or “SoC”). FYI - Very few US offerings besides this one. Wikipedia also has a list for this CPU (under the ARMv8 quad-core entry).
IMO, the most notable/competitor US phone using this chip is the BLU R1 HD. All are Android 6 (Marshmallow). Don’t know if any others were released in the US.
@mike808 It means you’ll never get anything better than Marshmallow. MediaTek abandoned that chip shortly before they brought it to market. Anybody using it was left high and dry. Luckily it was mostly no-name bottom of the barrel brands that never had any intention of supporting their phones in the first place.
Android 6 was new when the Nexus 5X came out. The Nexus 5X is guaranteed security updates until September 2018. Just say no. And regardless of Google’s policy on updates, the possibility that this phone will get any is zero.
@HankB33 It can be rooted fairly easily (apparently all Chinese-made MediaTek ARM chips can if you believe Youtube), and there could be some roms that might work. But you are probably better served by putting that $100 elsewhere in both time and money.
If you’re looking for a $100, Android 8+, US carrier, security/OS supported phone, the closest that hits that might be last year’s Nokia 6.1, which is $150, and not (yet) sub-$100. The new Nokia 7.1 is $250.
Might be a good thing for someone who wants to use the Torque Android app to monitor their OBD in their car without taking up the resources of their real phone. That’s what I do, but my daughter happened to have a retired Android phone that I use for that. I just keep it in the car and it’s there whenever I need it.
Ahahahaha, this write up is definitely talking to me, except for the printed MapQuest thing - I use Google Maps! …and I have a Garmin GPS only slightly newer than my flip-phone.
And yeah, the whole “moral angle” is basically where I’m coming from.
Yes - I’m on Meh right now - as I sit on the couch in my PJs drinking my coffee and surfing the 'net.
Once the coffee does its job, I’ll close the lap-top and hopefully spend the better part of my day NOT staring at a screen -hopefully. I have a hard enough time pulling myself away from the screen when I’m at home, you think I want to carry that shit with me everywhere I go?!?
Instead I’ll be shaking my head at the junkies who can’t look away from their phone-crack for more than a minute without getting all twitchy - EVEN WHEN THEY’RE DRIVING ON THE HIGHWAY AT 70MPH! (…then 60, then 70, in the fast lane, then half out of the fast lane, then cutting across all lanes because they didn’t notice their exit was 500 feet away… etc.)
Yeah, texting is a p.i.t.a. - that’s a good thing - keeps me from texting WHILE DRIVING…etc., see above.
Really, texting only becomes a problem for me with group texts - I can’t easily see who the author(s) are, I can’t reply-all, and worst of all, I can’t opt-out of a group chat!
Oh, and yesterday, I received NO mandatory message from President Tinyhands Twitler Von Mushroomdick.
Remains to be seen whether or not that’s really a good thing… When you’re all receiving daily alerts informing you how smart and great and honest and TOTALLY NOT COLLUDING your President-for-life is, I’ll be LMAO… On the other hand, when I’m the last one to find out that the zombie apocalypse has begun, I’ll be screwed.
To those who say this phone runs slow: How many gigs of RAM is considered fast?
I got my first smartphone (LG Tribute HD) back in May for $40. It has 1.5 GB RAM and doesn’t seem slow at all. In fact, it runs noticeably faster than my other tablets which have 1 GB RAM. Something about that extra half really seems to make a difference.
@josh42390 I’ll +1 you: I still have a pay-as-you-go flip phone. Anyone care to share a link or two on how to understand how to get service for this phone should I decide to buy it? (up to now I haven’t needed to learn about smartphone options, so a $100 phone seems enticing.)
@josh42390@Kerig3 Cricket or PagePlus are a couple other outlets which might support this phone.
That’s the thing. Sure this phone is inexpensive, and you might get lucky and port it onto your existing super cheap legacy prepaid account, or you might not.
The issue is that even in a relatively propellerhead environment of bargain hounds such as this, no one has ever heard of this phone, let alone this brand prior to today. Expect that when you call your (or any other) service provider to activate this phone, they’ll respond with “what kind of phone did you say it is again?” Eventually followed by a “we’re sorry, that’s not on our list of supported devices.”
Even if you do manage to get service, you’re running an older version of Android on unknown hardware. So if you find that the Facebook app always crashes, or just trying to set an alarm locks up the phone; you’re not going to find an online support community to help you troubleshoot the issue. If there’s even a technical support line for Envic at all, will you be able to reach anyone knowledgeable (or anyone at all?)
Fine, you say, You don’t even have maps, e-mail, nor even a flashlight or a QWERTY keyboard on your flip phone. If any of that works at all on this phone, that’s a big step up anyway, right? Perhaps. It depends if they work well enough not to frustrate you.
It’s only a hundred bucks if you want to give it a go, so not the end of the world if you eventually end up chucking it against a brick wall in aggravation, or merely adding it to that box of abandoned electronic gadgets in the closet.
@ciabelle Thanks for the explanation, great points! Could be why very few of these have sold so far. I really don’t need more headaches in my life when I really only use my phone for emergency calls at a fraction of the cheapest of those data plans. Probably an up-to-date phone with a contract would be best for me once I decide to join the 21st century!
@josh42390 I don’t want to discourage anyone from buying from Meh… I mean… well…, you know… but…
If you can hold out until Black Friday, every year Walmart has a smart phone or two on sale that are really ok phones. Last year I bought 2 Samsung smartphones for relatives. They were usually $150 -$200 and I paid less than $50 for them. The year before I bought one and I still use it. Different models, but still a decent phone. You need to specifically look for them, but they’re there.
@josh42390 Go to Walmart and get a Straight Talk phone that you know will work on the system and will be cheaper - I’ve seen some listed around $50. Plus it’s right there so you can touch it and fondle it to see if you like it.
@ciabelle@josh42390@Kerig3 PagePlus won’t. This looks to be GSM only, and PagePlus is CDMA.
As an aside, all of the Verizon-based MVNOs seem to be extremely restrictive on bringing your own device.
I just attempted to buy a brand new Motorola Moto E5 that is CDMA-compatible, but none of the three Verizon-based MVNOs I contacted with the MEID said it was approved for their network.
@josh42390@Kerig3 i use ting for my service. They use tmo or Sprint networks so this phone would work. Best deal around if you don’t use it much. My average bill is 22 bucks or something like that. You can go on their website and enter what you currently use and see your bill. If you want to try it, message me and i can give a referral code, we both get 25 bucks. The best thing about them tho is the service. They are canadian, so crazy friendly, and if you call them an actual real live Canadian answers on the first ring. (And yes I am in the US). I was a day one adopter and haven’t considered leaving. Ting.com
Where are you getting your phones that you are successfully porting?
I’ve had two failures. One was a Moto G4 purchased as an unlocked refurb from newegg. I got it and it turned out to be pre-paid, so ineligible.
The next was a brand new, never used, unlocked, non-prepaid, Verizon-compatible Moto E5 from bestbuy. Also ineligible.
In both cases, I had to buy the phone so I could get the MEID/IMEI to check compatibility and then return it.
@Limewater Well, let’s see. The first few were VZW flip phones that we had been using, we just ported them over, that was a breeze. We got a Tracfone, (trying to remember the brand, LG maybe?) at Best buy. I must have read either on HoFo or on the old Kitty Wireless boards that the model would work with Page Plus.
Then we got a Samsung Galaxy S5, I believe it was on eBay, which expressly stated it was ok for Page Plus, and it was. And I got a Moto Droid Razr, similarly listed, a few years ago – when I was finally ready to surrender my flip phone. I can’t remember if I was still using Page Plus for my own phone at that time, or had already migrated to another Verizon MVNO.
Now all we have left on Page+ are a couple of old 3G phones (on the $10 per 4 months paygo) for family members who really don’t use them.
@goldnectar Nope. Cheaper to buy an inexpensive new phone and an inexpensive new smart watch. I think these first went on sale in 2016, but the circuit designs are older. A slightly better 2018 version of the watch is only $18.
Nice cheap phone. My 4 year old is using it as a small tablet without service. The watch battery was bloated and the cover would not stay on. I contacted Envic support online, and while a bit slow I should have a replacement battery on the way.
My little guy is using the phone as we got it to test something and that opportunity changed before we got it, but he loves it. Plays all the games he wants, and he is happy with the pictures it takes, and loves to use it for streaming videos.