Chloroquine fast tracked by FDA - What took so long?
4As far back as late December reports began to surface that chloroquine, a form of quinine which is used to treat malaria, showed promise in inhibiting SARS-CoV-2, the virus at the root of COVID-19.
This morning the FDA was ordered to fast track approval for clinical trials to use chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine to fight the coronavirus.
So what took so long?
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I’ve been crawling around outside all day looking for deer ticks so I can have Corona with Lyme.
@mehcuda67 Be sure to buy some aspirin or something too as you’ll need it for the
lyme diseasethe “day after”.@Kidsandliz @mehcuda67 If you can get there we found plenty of ticks on Cumberland Island a couple of weeks ago when we went camping there…
@chienfou @mehcuda67 Heck go to where the 911 plane went down in PA. It is in the mountains and is very pretty there. My grandmother’s farm is about 10 miles from there as the crow flies. I was cousin #5 or so that got lyme from ticks on the farm.
@Kidsandliz @mehcuda67
bloodsucking little bastards!
Have you read about the side effects?
Also if the news was in December then it was coming out of China. Perhaps the sources (all things considered, and I don’t know if it was official or leaked info) were not trustworthy.
@duodec Yes, the first reports were coming from China and may have been dismissed by the western medical community as “more Chinese quackery”. After all, that’s the same culture which touts the health benefits of rhinoceros horn and deer antler velvet.
@ruouttaurmind Wasn’t saying quackery. Was saying that official Chinese sources have proven to be less than trustworthy, that at least some of the ‘unofficial’ leaks may have been moreso though some were probably more candid and truthful than what the state media released, but I have no idea what category the December info about chloroquine might have been under.
@duodec @ruouttaurmind Wait, what’s wrong with rhinoceros horn and deer antler velvet?!
@duodec @mehcuda67 @ruouttaurmind
… Obviously it’s less effective than the alternative.
https://futurama.fandom.com/wiki/Human_horn
@duodec @mehcuda67 @ruouttaurmind well, those don’t work, but bear gallbladder sure does! Tiger penis too
@duodec @robson @ruouttaurmind How many bear gallbladder and tiger penis harvesters did they go through to find that out?
@duodec @mehcuda67 @ruouttaurmind The problem with rhinoceros horn is that it comes from rhinoceroses.
Say what you will but I love their egg rolls & fried rice.
@therealjrn And the noodles! Lo Mein, FTW.
I’m not sure I trust this White House’s fast-tracking of anything, especially when it involves the FDA. I’ve been somewhat suspicious of them and their pharma lobbyist ties. I’m not sure why but I seem to put more stock in what CDC and NIH say but, again, they’re still ultimately controlled by the tRump admin, so we’re all probably screwed.
@llangley I dont think this administration understands how science works. The fish rots from the head.
@llangley More likely the administration-spanning unelected job-for-life bureaucracy.
How so, @macromeh? What proof do you have that makes you say that?
@llangley I don’t trust any white house… “Read my lips, no new taxes”
“I did not have sexual relations with that woman”
“We’re going to take out the WMDs.”
“If you like your insurance, you can keep it”
“Tax cuts pay for themselves” (multiple R’s, starting with RR)
“This spending bill is paid for” (multiple D’s, start is fuzzy and exception for BC with the NG Congress)
Is that enough to make a point??
@llangley @macromeh I would NOT include Dr. Anthony Fauci in that group. He has run the Nat. Inst. of Allergy and Infectious Diseases since 1984 under Presidents since Reagan and is known to be honorable and truthful. At age 79 he probably does not need a job and does this because he feels he can contribute. I believe what he tells us.
@andyw Agree completely.
Dr Fauci is a calming voice of reason amidst the cluster of bluster.
Interesting…I have loads of plaquenil (hydroxychlo…) pills on hand. I take it for Lupus. Anti malaria drugs are used to treat Lupus, as there is only 1 fda approved drug. Hope this works and cuts down the 18 month free fall we’re in.
@ruouttaurmind So does this mean that tonic water might be our cure?
Gin and Tonic for the win.
PSA - Just kidding, don’t do it.
https://www.livescience.com/36536-tonic-water-quinine-malaria-health.html
https://www.healthline.com/health/quinine-in-tonic-water
@mehcuda67 I think that most tonic water does not have quinine in it and if it does, the label says it does. Some people have severe, or mild, reactions to quinine. That particular reaction is almost unheard of with hydroxychloroquine.
WHO KNEW TAKING PET MEDS WAS BAD? ORANGE MAN BAD.
@therealjrn Usually if you know what you’re doing it’s not. Buying them an popping pills can kill you though. The wingnut internet underground is full of this kind of frugal stuff. Anyway the the old man died and the old lady ended up in intensive care and was babbling about no one should listen to Trump ever again and shit.
@cranky1950 It seems MSNBC was babbling mightily over this announcement of the trial drug before too. So. I dunno. I haven’t heard about the lady saying that. Is it just rumors or do we have a recording or something? Either way, very tragic and very stupid. Everybody else knew taking Tide Pods was the way to avoid the 'rona.
@therealjrn https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/man-dies-after-ingesting-chloroquine-attempt-prevent-coronavirus-n1167166
@cranky1950
Wow. That was unfortunate.
If people want to make an error (imo) of thinking this is the president’s fault, well, that’s like equating chloroquine phosphate with hydroxychloroquine.
Thanks for posting the article. I can’t read the latimes one because of ad blockers there.
@chienfou is hoarding all of the toilet paper… again.
@therealjrn On the other hand he could’ve said simply said there is a French treatment that we are greatly encouraged by and I’ve instructed the FDA to fast-track their study. We should have result very soon. He know’s who his lemmings are and how they react to any of his blither blather.
@cranky1950 Uh, lets just drop it.
When you start saying “he knows who his lemmings are”
We are traveling down a road that make me want to say “fuck off you idiot” and I’d rather not say “fuck off you idiot” because I like you, you dummy
@therealjrn That’s fine.
@cranky1950
:hugs:
You can’t April Fool me!
@mediocrebot sure we can
It has some trippy side effects! A friend took it for a trip to Africa. He had vivid hallucinations and terrors that woke everyone else up… He had no idea other than stuff was tore up in the morning…
@IWUJackson Clearly, we should give it to large portions of the population. I knew things were going to get weird but not quite like this.
@atannir @IWUJackson Are you sure we haven’t? What’s the real explanation for toilet paper madness?
@atannir @blaineg Just found this, but the TP madness is actually an issue with everyone being home. They’re actually using more consumer toilet paper because they’re not using the toilet at work or public places. There’s an overstock of commercial TP, but they don’t use the same distribution channels. Check out Kimberly Clark, they have both commercial and residential divisions (I believe Angel Soft) and they’re loaded with commercial and moving as quickly as possible with residential.
@atannir @blaineg @IWUJackson exactly!!
I am a (rare) case of one, but it was a quinine based OTC that nearly killed me a couple of years ago.
Side effects are a real thing.
Whoa!!!
https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2020-04-01/trump-chloroquine-coronavirus-bad-science-hiltzik-column
If this medication prevented or cured COVID-19 then people who take it to treat rheumatoid arthritis or lupus shouldn’t get COVID-19 or should recover very quickly. Where’s the data on that?
(I have a friend who takes it for RA. She hasn’t gotten COVID-19 but she’s been following the shelter at home rules very strictly. She’s retired so she wasn’t going to work anyway.)
@Pamela A couple weeks ago, one of Trump’s “selling points” for this drug was that in countries in the southern hemisphere, where it is routinely used for Malaria, “no one there is getting Covid19”. Those countries have since turned bright red on the maps, so there goes that argument.
And with his administration buying gobs of the stuff recently, someone in PharmCo just made a lot of money.
Fox so called news / entertainment channel. What ever sticks or on news cycle… Load up on Toilet paper for this Shit show…
Chewy has been out of that stuff for a couple of weeks now.
Dr in France is claiming a 100% success rate treating patients with this stuff 320 out of 320 tries cure. Trump in his ham handed way has been yammering about this stuff for weeks; and that old couple in Az bought pet meds and made themselves very sick because the President said this stuff prevents corona virus. Anyway if what the French Dr. says is remotely true, it’s worth a shot and that is why the FDA is in business.
@cranky1950 To me 100% is a big red flag. Nothing is 100%. Dr Fauchi in an interview a few days ago said more or less: We’ve got stories that it works, but we don’t have actual data.
@blaineg That’s why the FDA is studying and not approving.