Every other day it’s masks. Did you buy all the left over masks from the White House when the previous administration left? I heard there were a lot of unused masks left over.
I don’t know if these meet the standard for Covid-19; but, are you suggesting that any mask stops your breath from going in and out or you wouldn’t see your breath when it cold?? If that were the case, you would suffocate.
These ones aren’t worth buying. The ones they originally had that were teal and in Chinese were good, but with these ones, you can feel your breath go in and out and when it’s cold you can see your breath. So save your money.
@UpbeatDuck I bought them too but have so many KN95 masks from previous meh deals I didn’t open them until now. I tried blowing out a candle with one on and the flame didn’t flicker at all.
@courteousblock - The first ones I ordered from Meh felt better on my face. They had the metal strip on the outside of the mask. This brand isn’t quite as comfortable, but effective.
@ConcealedPsycho You sound like you believe everyone has a nearby pharmacy, and transportation to it, staffed with highly trained licensed pharmacists, ready to sell you expensive masks, and the budget to afford them.
If you’re gonna call “fake”, offer some sources for your misinformation to make it sound at least a little plausible. Lest the label be applied to your view instead of the masks sold here.
@ConcealedPsycho@duodec
Fair enough. Are the ones sold here by Meh on those lists of ineffective? I doubt Meh would knowingly sell decertified or uncertified items with the KN95 certification.
Good thing we had a “law and order” president the last four years really putting some effort and priority into strengthening health and safety product regulations and protecting the consumers. Otherwise we wouldn’t be in this mess to begin with. /s
@ConcealedPsycho@mike808 See @MrNews post below. I don’t have time to dig but he didn’t find them on approved or decertified lists so who knows? For myself I’ll avoid chinese manufacture when possible.
It would not surprise me in the least to find out that the brands that have been certified here in the US are also being counterfeited (no I don’t have any proof that it is happening). If you read enough stories about manufacturing in China when the people contracting the manufacture do not ride very close herd on the factories… there are true tales of horror.
@MrNews I’m still shepherding my dwindling suppy of 3M and North masks and real surgical masks (bought well before the pandemic, thank you). Just saying no to any (K) masks.
@duodec We’re still using some excellent CVS paper cone masks for walking outside (pollen protection), purchased 13 months ago. And the Powecom KN95s for shopping, dr office visits, etc. Actually, we’re double-masking now, using a Hanes 3-ply cotton mask over a KN95, which is not uncomfortable at all. At 66 and immunosuppressed, I’m not taking chances; I know too many people who’ve died from this…
@MrNews But a NY Times article said the other day there are counterfeit powecom ones running around too. A USA distributor for powecom is bonafidemasks.com and they will sell directly to the public. They have an anticounterfeit sticker that, for the ones I have bought from them, (no tax, free shipping) have always checked out.
@Kidsandliz Yes, I have bought some at that website. They are legitimate. It’s too bad the government didn’t get more involved earlier on, and work to prevent the flood of knock-offs. It doesn’t help the campaign to get everyone to be responsible and mask up…
Been there, done that, had it, over it. I never stopped working, never stopped going to stores. It’s about control. If anyone else wants to wear them, more power to them…it’s their decision…just not me!
@richrauch from what I’ve seen posted and reported, the ‘k’ in front is supposed to be representative of the chinese equivalent to the NIOSH N-95 standard, so almost certainly chinese manufacture. Where else would they go to make them cheaper other than an outsourced chinese owned factory in some third world country
@duodec@richrauch The K is for Korea. Try not to contribute to the misinformation you’re claiming you’re trying to dispel.
And you’re saying that’s better than an outsourced formerly American-owned (and built) factory in some third-world country (exploiting the near-slave labor costs) that got bought out by the Chinese when the former American owners sold everyone out for their bonuses? So, do you anti-Chinese racism/xenophobia much?
“KN95 face mask. KN95 is a performance rating under the Chinese standard GB2626:2006, the requirements of which are broadly the same as the European standard BSEN149:2001+A1:2009 for FFP2 facemasks.”
Specific quote from above; perhaps something like this is where you got the Korean reference? :
“ECRI will continue assessing masks to provide more insight on quality standards. They plan to look at KF95s, which are made in Korea”
Distrust of the government of a country which has proven itself to be deceitful and, in may ways an enemy of one’s own country is not xenophobia or racism. CCP is not China but it is what we have to deal with with almost all things Chinese.
More could be said but there are political topics for venting and off-topic items.
Everything I’ve read says KN95 is the Chinese specification, similar to, but different from the US N95 spec. Neither spec says anything about country of origin.
@duodec@richrauch I read that article claiming to compare N95 and KN95 mask standards. It is a bit disingenuous to claim that KN95 masks should not be used where fluid resistance is needed, such as a medical/dental setting, when there is no similar requirement for N95 compliant masks either. It isn’t blatant “Chinese bad, US good” reporting, but there are implicit biases in the statements being made that are not impartial or equivalently applied.
N.B. I’m not defending these masks - there are enough questions about their “certification” to warrant a pass if that’s important to who will be using them and in what setting.
Walking the dog out in the street with plenty of social distancing if there even is anyone around? Sure.
Handing these out to the homeless (who are often barred from entering businesses - the post office, grocery stores, etc. because they don’t have masks), then something is better than nothing to give access to a severely underserved and under-resourced population during the pandemic.
Using as a teaching tool with kids to demonstrate changing masks often as they become used and/or dirty and having spares around, sure. If the alternative is to not mask.
I bought these like a week ago. They’re great. Just tried blowing out a candle with one on, and the flame didn’t flicker at all. The nose piece is quite creased so I recommend flattening that out before putting on the mask and squeezing the nose piece to your nose.
They just arrived after having ordered them Feb10th. More accurate to say "N95 Style"mask. But they’re not authentic or approved. They are better than paper masks for comfort.
Its crazy-paid over $ 4 a piece with shipping from China for my first KN95 masks and loved them as they had two elastic straps around the back and no ear straps. Couldn’t stand the masks that stayed on by going around the ears plus the mask sucked in as I breathed.
Finally bit the bullet and bought some N95 masks from Costco-had to buy 100 of them so the cost was well over $ 200, but they had the two straps around the back and were rigid and didn’t go in and out as I breathed.
They have rows of holes in the area where masks are not supposed to have hole. It’s not a mask, it’s unethical I would imagine to sell these as offering any protection. I’m trashing the whole box.
@geneh On mine, they’re not holes. They are solid spots where the mask layers have been melted together. Try sticking a pencil tip through. If yours have holes, return them.
Every other day it’s masks. Did you buy all the left over masks from the White House when the previous administration left? I heard there were a lot of unused masks left over.
I don’t know if these meet the standard for Covid-19; but, are you suggesting that any mask stops your breath from going in and out or you wouldn’t see your breath when it cold?? If that were the case, you would suffocate.
@billst10 Someone was trying to tell me that masks somehow selectively retain CO2, yet prevent O2 from getting in.
I suggested that this miracle material was an incredible business opportunity, but they weren’t interested.
The new candy corn and fidget spinner, but will they last until 2022?
These ones aren’t worth buying. The ones they originally had that were teal and in Chinese were good, but with these ones, you can feel your breath go in and out and when it’s cold you can see your breath. So save your money.
@misswright If you can’t feel your breath coming through the mask, that means it’s going around the mask, which means the mask isn’t working.
@Aspirant_Fool @misswright
Or you’re suffocating.
@Aspirant_Fool sure, but on the first ones I could feel my breath. It’s the difference between breathing through mesh and a sieve
@Aspirant_Fool @neveraging the first masks took a while for me to learn how to breathe in, these ones have less restriction than a cloth mask.
Who was that masked marshmallow?
@yakkoTDI Me!
Ya know what’s highly breathable? A used bottle of Pour Homme by Jean Paul Gaultier.
This place has become the woot of masks.
The ones I ordered the last go around came in today. I haven’t tried them out yet.
@UpbeatDuck I bought them too but have so many KN95 masks from previous meh deals I didn’t open them until now. I tried blowing out a candle with one on and the flame didn’t flicker at all.
@courteousblock - The first ones I ordered from Meh felt better on my face. They had the metal strip on the outside of the mask. This brand isn’t quite as comfortable, but effective.
With so many N95 mask from wholesalers being deemed counterfeit I wouldn’t be surprised if these were as well.
Don’t risk it by buying these.
Only get your N95 mask in person from pharmacies never online
@ConcealedPsycho Because pharmacies don’t ever buy from the same distributors that Meh got these from, right?
This is Meh, after all. The part about not meeting high standards is right in the name. And in the prices.
@ConcealedPsycho You sound like you believe everyone has a nearby pharmacy, and transportation to it, staffed with highly trained licensed pharmacists, ready to sell you expensive masks, and the budget to afford them.
If you’re gonna call “fake”, offer some sources for your misinformation to make it sound at least a little plausible. Lest the label be applied to your view instead of the masks sold here.
@ConcealedPsycho @mike808
CDC on counterfeit masks
USA Today on counterfeit masks
Massive counterfeit N95 mask scam
Some KN-95 masks banned as ineffective
@ConcealedPsycho @duodec
Fair enough. Are the ones sold here by Meh on those lists of ineffective? I doubt Meh would knowingly sell decertified or uncertified items with the KN95 certification.
Good thing we had a “law and order” president the last four years really putting some effort and priority into strengthening health and safety product regulations and protecting the consumers. Otherwise we wouldn’t be in this mess to begin with. /s
@ConcealedPsycho @mike808 See @MrNews post below. I don’t have time to dig but he didn’t find them on approved or decertified lists so who knows? For myself I’ll avoid chinese manufacture when possible.
It would not surprise me in the least to find out that the brands that have been certified here in the US are also being counterfeited (no I don’t have any proof that it is happening). If you read enough stories about manufacturing in China when the people contracting the manufacture do not ride very close herd on the factories… there are true tales of horror.
Could not find brand name “Vese” on any FDA documentation. These are not on either the “approved for EUA” or “approval withdrawn” list, which likely means they have not been submitted for testing. Which means their filtration effectiveness for 3 micron particles could be anywhere from 5% to 99%. Your call, but for assurance, better to buy a tested & approved brand, such as Powecom…
https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19-emergency-use-authorizations-medical-devices/personal-protective-equipment-euas#appendixa
@MrNews I’m still shepherding my dwindling suppy of 3M and North masks and real surgical masks (bought well before the pandemic, thank you). Just saying no to any (K) masks.
@duodec We’re still using some excellent CVS paper cone masks for walking outside (pollen protection), purchased 13 months ago. And the Powecom KN95s for shopping, dr office visits, etc. Actually, we’re double-masking now, using a Hanes 3-ply cotton mask over a KN95, which is not uncomfortable at all. At 66 and immunosuppressed, I’m not taking chances; I know too many people who’ve died from this…
@MrNews But a NY Times article said the other day there are counterfeit powecom ones running around too. A USA distributor for powecom is bonafidemasks.com and they will sell directly to the public. They have an anticounterfeit sticker that, for the ones I have bought from them, (no tax, free shipping) have always checked out.
@Kidsandliz Yes, I have bought some at that website. They are legitimate. It’s too bad the government didn’t get more involved earlier on, and work to prevent the flood of knock-offs. It doesn’t help the campaign to get everyone to be responsible and mask up…
@Kidsandliz @MrNews Glad if you have proper ones.
I don’t wear a mask, so I sure don’t want 60 of them!!
@who922 ok dork
@scottheisel @who922 So who (i mean the one with name who) is waiting for a Meh deal on caskets?
Been there, done that, had it, over it. I never stopped working, never stopped going to stores. It’s about control. If anyone else wants to wear them, more power to them…it’s their decision…just not me!
Specs
What’s in the Box?
Price Comparison
$59.99 (Similar) at Amazon for 60 Pack
Warranty
90 days
Estimated Delivery
Friday, Sep 17 - Tuesday, Sep 21
Um, thank you meh for this, but you can’t do math. If you sell 60 of these every 30 days, then that means that people won’t buy.
What do I know, I’m a sprite in a late 80s - early 90s game.
@guybrush01 They might have new math involved in their calculations. And since the current advice is wear two, then it would work out perfectly.
OH MY GOD THEY MASKED GLEN!!!
Ummm… I don’t not want these, but yeah, this deal isn’t getting any better than last time I bit, so… no.
Yay, more Chinese (we’ll presume, since there’s no info anywhere) masks!!!
Thanks for another day confirming I didn’t need that Meh-mbership anymore.
@richrauch from what I’ve seen posted and reported, the ‘k’ in front is supposed to be representative of the chinese equivalent to the NIOSH N-95 standard, so almost certainly chinese manufacture. Where else would they go to make them cheaper other than an outsourced chinese owned factory in some third world country
@duodec @richrauch The K is for Korea. Try not to contribute to the misinformation you’re claiming you’re trying to dispel.
And you’re saying that’s better than an outsourced formerly American-owned (and built) factory in some third-world country (exploiting the near-slave labor costs) that got bought out by the Chinese when the former American owners sold everyone out for their bonuses? So, do you anti-Chinese racism/xenophobia much?
@mike808 @richrauch
“KN95 face mask. KN95 is a performance rating under the Chinese standard GB2626:2006, the requirements of which are broadly the same as the European standard BSEN149:2001+A1:2009 for FFP2 facemasks.”
KN95 vs N95 reporting
Specific quote from above; perhaps something like this is where you got the Korean reference? :
“ECRI will continue assessing masks to provide more insight on quality standards. They plan to look at KF95s, which are made in Korea”
Distrust of the government of a country which has proven itself to be deceitful and, in may ways an enemy of one’s own country is not xenophobia or racism. CCP is not China but it is what we have to deal with with almost all things Chinese.
More could be said but there are political topics for venting and off-topic items.
@duodec @mike808 @richrauch
Everything I’ve read says KN95 is the Chinese specification, similar to, but different from the US N95 spec. Neither spec says anything about country of origin.
@duodec @richrauch I read that article claiming to compare N95 and KN95 mask standards. It is a bit disingenuous to claim that KN95 masks should not be used where fluid resistance is needed, such as a medical/dental setting, when there is no similar requirement for N95 compliant masks either. It isn’t blatant “Chinese bad, US good” reporting, but there are implicit biases in the statements being made that are not impartial or equivalently applied.
N.B. I’m not defending these masks - there are enough questions about their “certification” to warrant a pass if that’s important to who will be using them and in what setting.
Walking the dog out in the street with plenty of social distancing if there even is anyone around? Sure.
Handing these out to the homeless (who are often barred from entering businesses - the post office, grocery stores, etc. because they don’t have masks), then something is better than nothing to give access to a severely underserved and under-resourced population during the pandemic.
Using as a teaching tool with kids to demonstrate changing masks often as they become used and/or dirty and having spares around, sure. If the alternative is to not mask.
Masks, indicative of our lives, in layers since Covid-19.
Here’s hoping my state will turn at least some slight shade of gray in the “who’s buying” map. Please? C’mon, people!
@jthvedt Mine is no sales either. That figures for this state. Why am I not surprised?
@jthvedt @Kidsandliz Maybe they don’t want (apparently) uncertified masks. I’m not buying them and I do wear masks wherever appropriate.
Plus its not like there haven’t been a lot of KN95 masks for sale all over the place recently.
@duodec @jthvedt tons of people in my state don’t wear masks at all because of, well you know, the hoax that keeps sickening and killing people. Sigh.
I bought these like a week ago. They’re great. Just tried blowing out a candle with one on, and the flame didn’t flicker at all. The nose piece is quite creased so I recommend flattening that out before putting on the mask and squeezing the nose piece to your nose.
Better than nothing but I’m also getting a plastic face shield if possible.
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They just arrived after having ordered them Feb10th. More accurate to say "N95 Style"mask. But they’re not authentic or approved. They are better than paper masks for comfort.
Its crazy-paid over $ 4 a piece with shipping from China for my first KN95 masks and loved them as they had two elastic straps around the back and no ear straps. Couldn’t stand the masks that stayed on by going around the ears plus the mask sucked in as I breathed.
Finally bit the bullet and bought some N95 masks from Costco-had to buy 100 of them so the cost was well over $ 200, but they had the two straps around the back and were rigid and didn’t go in and out as I breathed.
They have rows of holes in the area where masks are not supposed to have hole. It’s not a mask, it’s unethical I would imagine to sell these as offering any protection. I’m trashing the whole box.
@geneh On mine, they’re not holes. They are solid spots where the mask layers have been melted together. Try sticking a pencil tip through. If yours have holes, return them.
@kbfoot Thanks, I’ll check that and give it consideration. That seems correct.
I just looked at my email and it says they were delivered. I did not receive them !
Got mine today and just what I ordered. Thank you for being prompt.
Yeah, they’re all like that. How do I get a refund? These are useless.
Excellent service! Highly recommend!!
the elastic ear pieces come off wayyyyy to easily. one day i went through 5 because they kept breaking.