I don’t know if these meet the standard for Covid-19; but, are you suggesting that any mask stops your breath from going in and out or you wouldn’t see your breath when it cold?? If that were the case, you would suffocate.
These ones aren’t worth buying. The ones they originally had that were teal and in Chinese were good, but with these ones, you can feel your breath go in and out and when it’s cold you can see your breath. So save your money.
@ConcealedPsycho You sound like you believe everyone has a nearby pharmacy, and transportation to it, staffed with highly trained licensed pharmacists, ready to sell you expensive masks, and the budget to afford them.
If you’re gonna call “fake”, offer some sources for your misinformation to make it sound at least a little plausible. Lest the label be applied to your view instead of the masks sold here.
Fair enough. Are the ones sold here by Meh on those lists of ineffective? I doubt Meh would knowingly sell decertified or uncertified items with the KN95 certification.
Good thing we had a “law and order” president the last four years really putting some effort and priority into strengthening health and safety product regulations and protecting the consumers. Otherwise we wouldn’t be in this mess to begin with. /s
@ConcealedPsycho@mike808 See @MrNews post below. I don’t have time to dig but he didn’t find them on approved or decertified lists so who knows? For myself I’ll avoid chinese manufacture when possible.
It would not surprise me in the least to find out that the brands that have been certified here in the US are also being counterfeited (no I don’t have any proof that it is happening). If you read enough stories about manufacturing in China when the people contracting the manufacture do not ride very close herd on the factories… there are true tales of horror.
@duodec We’re still using some excellent CVS paper cone masks for walking outside (pollen protection), purchased 13 months ago. And the Powecom KN95s for shopping, dr office visits, etc. Actually, we’re double-masking now, using a Hanes 3-ply cotton mask over a KN95, which is not uncomfortable at all. At 66 and immunosuppressed, I’m not taking chances; I know too many people who’ve died from this…
@MrNews But a NY Times article said the other day there are counterfeit powecom ones running around too. A USA distributor for powecom is bonafidemasks.com and they will sell directly to the public. They have an anticounterfeit sticker that, for the ones I have bought from them, (no tax, free shipping) have always checked out.
@Kidsandliz Yes, I have bought some at that website. They are legitimate. It’s too bad the government didn’t get more involved earlier on, and work to prevent the flood of knock-offs. It doesn’t help the campaign to get everyone to be responsible and mask up…
Been there, done that, had it, over it. I never stopped working, never stopped going to stores. It’s about control. If anyone else wants to wear them, more power to them…it’s their decision…just not me!
@richrauch from what I’ve seen posted and reported, the ‘k’ in front is supposed to be representative of the chinese equivalent to the NIOSH N-95 standard, so almost certainly chinese manufacture. Where else would they go to make them cheaper other than an outsourced chinese owned factory in some third world country
@duodec@richrauch The K is for Korea. Try not to contribute to the misinformation you’re claiming you’re trying to dispel.
And you’re saying that’s better than an outsourced formerly American-owned (and built) factory in some third-world country (exploiting the near-slave labor costs) that got bought out by the Chinese when the former American owners sold everyone out for their bonuses? So, do you anti-Chinese racism/xenophobia much?
Specific quote from above; perhaps something like this is where you got the Korean reference? :
“ECRI will continue assessing masks to provide more insight on quality standards. They plan to look at KF95s, which are made in Korea”
Distrust of the government of a country which has proven itself to be deceitful and, in may ways an enemy of one’s own country is not xenophobia or racism. CCP is not China but it is what we have to deal with with almost all things Chinese.
More could be said but there are political topics for venting and off-topic items.
@duodec@richrauch I read that article claiming to compare N95 and KN95 mask standards. It is a bit disingenuous to claim that KN95 masks should not be used where fluid resistance is needed, such as a medical/dental setting, when there is no similar requirement for N95 compliant masks either. It isn’t blatant “Chinese bad, US good” reporting, but there are implicit biases in the statements being made that are not impartial or equivalently applied.
N.B. I’m not defending these masks - there are enough questions about their “certification” to warrant a pass if that’s important to who will be using them and in what setting.
Walking the dog out in the street with plenty of social distancing if there even is anyone around? Sure.
Handing these out to the homeless (who are often barred from entering businesses - the post office, grocery stores, etc. because they don’t have masks), then something is better than nothing to give access to a severely underserved and under-resourced population during the pandemic.
Using as a teaching tool with kids to demonstrate changing masks often as they become used and/or dirty and having spares around, sure. If the alternative is to not mask.
I bought these like a week ago. They’re great. Just tried blowing out a candle with one on, and the flame didn’t flicker at all. The nose piece is quite creased so I recommend flattening that out before putting on the mask and squeezing the nose piece to your nose.
Its crazy-paid over $ 4 a piece with shipping from China for my first KN95 masks and loved them as they had two elastic straps around the back and no ear straps. Couldn’t stand the masks that stayed on by going around the ears plus the mask sucked in as I breathed.
Finally bit the bullet and bought some N95 masks from Costco-had to buy 100 of them so the cost was well over $ 200, but they had the two straps around the back and were rigid and didn’t go in and out as I breathed.