@railek
Yeah, it’s BS that “anything is better than nothing…”
There are things that are worse too- e.g., thin, ill-fitting masks that cause a false sense of security.
@OnionSoup@railek Honda Fit - that’s one of those vehicles you put 17 clowns in right? If yes we can hide out at the circus after the crime. We’ll have to time the robbery for when the circus is in town. Oh and we’ll need clown masks.
@Bandrik No, not really better than nothing. Thin, single layers can actually be worse, since it helps to aerosol-ize the particles, allowing them to remain in the air longer. These are actually useless.
@Bandrik@GeckoD Prove it. In a time of massive misinformation around everything covid, I have never heard or read such a claim that a single-layer mask makes things worse.
@Bandrik@GeckoD@Konraden
a study from Duke University https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/08/07/sciadv.abd3083 (not these particular masks) found that some mask types mask seems to make the distribution of droplets worse. "We noticed that speaking through some masks (particularly the neck fleece) seemed to disperse the largest droplets into a multitude of smaller droplets (see Supplementary Fig. S5), which explains the apparent increase in droplet count relative to no mask in that case. Considering that smaller particles are airborne longer than large droplets (larger droplets sink faster), the use of such a mask might be counterproductive. "
Yeah, I’d need to know more before I ordered them. Mask quality varies wildly. I finally bagged some on etsy that are three layered quilted cotton with a nose clip inside that do the trick.
Don’t skimp on your masks if you really spend any time out and about.
@stinks Got asked for the store: She’s on break until the 22nd, but here it is. We’ve purchased eight from her. One was a little bigger than the rest, but they’re all great:
In my opinion having to double them to make them be even remotely useable for their intended purpose makes them not worth buying… Had they been two layer or even better two layer with a pocket for a filter then I’d be in. Well they’d also have to have a metal piece over the nose that stayed in the shape bent one bent it as that is key in helping prevent glasses fogging.
@Kidsandliz Even when using a mask with a metal nose piece, my glasses still get fogged up. Am I doing it wrong? (I’ve had more success by pushing my glasses a little farther down my nose, to allow the exhalation more room to escape up behind my glasses.)
@Doodpants What I have discovered is that a thicker metal nose piece helps make the wire stay where you bent it and stay tightly to your nose, the bend needs to follow your cheeks too, not just your nose, you have to “tighten” the bend on occasion, and you push the mask up as high as you can on your nose (same effect as pushing your glasses down your nose a bit) without then stabbing yourself in the eyes with the edges of the mask.
I also have found not all masks have been created equal with respect to the nose piece. Before I buy a box I bend the top through whatever they are sealed in and see if it stays, see how thick the wire is… I also ask the people who work in the store which brand they are using and sometimes they are using what is being sold and so far have been able to talk them into letting me handle one and try it on (disposable masks).
I have bought a couple of boxes that seemed good in the store and then sucked on the glasses fogging front wearing them longer as the nose piece still unbent, just much more slowly, or the ear loops pull out easily. I have also found I can then sell my mistakes at 10 masks for $5 in the building I live in when I blow it with my choice and so don’t lose much - or with more of them now at $14.99 for 50 then come out ahead (which fortunately has then covered the other losses on the more expensive boxes).
The KATA ones that Office Depot sells - they let me mess with one as the employees were using them - works better than most I have tried (still not perfect). It does have a problem at first in that the paper is too stiff along the top but it softens after a while and conforms better. As a bonus the ear loops don’t pull out - at least not so far, even with repeated usages. I did have to make very tiny knots in the ear loops to shorten them a bit. The price of those is all over the place. I bought a box of 50 at $14.99. Then they were selling two boxes at a buy one get one free where the price was still $14.99/box. Right now they are $24.99/box. I would presume they will keep playing with the price. Also to get the cheap price you have to buy online (store price is usually not on sale and they won’t price match their online price) and pick up in the store (postage with them is a killer).
I found all the ones the local Lowes, Home Depot, CVS pharmacy, Kroger (although they have a new kind that look promising in but they work out to roughly $40/50 so nope) and Walmart have IN the store all suck. Over half the metal nose piece didn’t stay where you bent it - you could watch it unbend, 2 kinds were in bags where I couldn’t test that through the bag so crossed them off (since they aren’t returnable), some stayed bent but the metal was so thin I figured that would break easily (have had some masks where that happened) or online reviews under negative mentioned, over and over that the loops pull out on the first wearing or while putting them on.
What has worked best for me is the “surgeon” masks with ear loops that MD Anderson gave us if they didn’t like what we came in with for our apts. They have a strip of thin foam along the top, good nose piece and I had no fogging. Unfortunately, when I googled them they are not selling to the public or any retail stores at the moment (which makes sense because of the continuing shortage).
I have read that some folks put some kleenex along the top - I presume gluing it down (not sure) or buy really thin foam and glue that in. In both cases I think why that works is that it absorbs moisture and that decreases fogging. The fogging is sure a PITA though. Especially in over air conditioned stores or when walking past open refrigerated grocery store shelves.
@Doodpants@Kidsandliz Rub a little shaving cream (or a very light soap/water mix) onto the lenses until it dries, then wipe them clean with a microfiber cloth. It’ll keep your glasses from fogging up, for several days at a time!! (I learned this from a nurse friend.)
@Doodpants@Kidsandliz
You could just wash your glasses with soap and use anti-fog. Failing that, for the seal you can use medical tape. Seems way complicated interesting to me about the foam as many I have talked to avoid foam like the plague and only want the wire.
@Doodpants@sippinndippin Both anti-fog stuff and shaving cream seem like a good idea. Does either affect lens coatings or leave streaks? With soap and water I find that seems to streak if there is any soap left no matter how I try to dry it. Is there a trick with that as that certainly would be the cheapest. Medical tape is out for me as I have a skin allergy to tape but that certainly would work as anything that blocks air out the top and/or absorbs moisture solves the problem.
I like the foam strip on the one medical mask I have (well actually I have 4 - one from each day of which one has bit the dust and a second one is close to it) as the is problem solved (well it has a good nose metal strip too- likely would work less well without that) and it doesn’t bother me. Why don’t people like the foam? Does it make it hotter or something? I haven’t noticed that but then mine isn’t a home made solution, plus hot is hot as in sweat dripping down your forehead at some point with these things anyway - foam strip or not.
@Doodpants@Kidsandliz
Depends on what lens coatings you have.
Transitions-I haven’t seen a problem with.
UV- possibly but realize that polycarbonate lenses are supposed to be 100% resistant to degradation from UV and largely resilient to letting UV pass through (degrades over time though).
Anti-glare- possibly contact your eyeglass manufacturer.
Scratch resistant- this is dependent on the lab making it proprietary formulae is impossible to say. Contact manufacturer again,
However, I would suggest after a year or so it’s likely worth it because I get impact craters instead of scratches anyway and I know my time won’t last more than 2 years especially as any adult wearing specs should really have a new vision test every two years anyway (or so I have read).
As far as soap and water I would try and use distilled water. That way water droplets and streaks are less likely. That’s why they sell that stuff at car washes and whatnot. “Spot free rinse.”
Soap quality I mean I would use a scent free liquid soap and if I wanted to really do go for it reckless with streak free glass cleaner (like better life on Amazon),
@Doodpants@sippinndippin UV on plastic lenses along with an anti scratch coating and anti-glare on both sides so I’ll have to look into it. Distilled water is a good suggestion.
I think this is the first COVID-19 specific offering, five months after the unofficial start of stay at home and shelter in place orders. They look really uncomfortable. I’d buy 10 of them for a dollar.
There are actually less than useless, and harmful. It fools people and stores into thinking you’re wearing a mask that is even remotely working, but they aren’t. These are polyester as well so won’t even be easy to breathe through and cause itching
@zach_kay392 ohh I’m certainly not one of them. My post was not intended to promote these. Rather to point out how foolish (or selfish) these buyers are.
@jmoor783 Good luck getting legit ones, though. I’ve had a lacquer project on hold for months, because I can’t get vapor filters from ULine… or anywhere else… or any other filters where I’ve looked.
@finalremix Yeah N95s have been hard to get. I’ve seen kN95s (whatever those are) online and in stores, and 3 layer surgical style masks are easy to get (you can get a box of 50 for $12 at costco right now, limit 5 boxes).
So what I’m gathering from the comments here is that these are perfect for people who don’t give a fuck & just don’t want to be hassled going to the grocery store.
I’m thinking these will sell out.
@RogerWilco the thing is it’s actually cheaper to buy surgical masks you get more for less and it’s better you’re paying for polyester design like I said it’s less than useless
These look like the shitty foam ones I wasted money on early in the pandemic. They’re great if you need to blow out your birthday candles while wearing a mask, but you don’t actually want to help slow the pandemic.
@hchavers that’s about 4 bucks for a mask. You can get a 3 layer cotton mask with a pocket for a filter for less than 5. These are polyester. U won’t breathe through 1, yet alone 2. Plus u want to add the filter? No nose piece plus no elastic for ear which means it will get strerched and fall off face. Again. Less than useless.
@katsuronishi I wear a mask because I care about other people and want to help protect them from a deadly virus. I would hope others would wear masks for the same reason.
These particular masks that are being offered do seem pretty useless but that’s not to say you shouldn’t wear one at all. You should. You really, really, really should.
@katsuronishi@peaceetc
Caring about other people hmm.
Probably had a significantly different life experience than me, I am still trying to get that back.
@raive
Probably not. It actually benefits me to see the economy struggle. I am undervalued and underpaid so with the death of the economy I am actually getting much like everyone else, in good times I will just get shit on. It actually works out to I can see solidarity in the struggles of the economy, While things will undoubtedly get more expensive its certainly been doing that in a healthy economy as well.
@sippinndippin Wanting to watch the world burn is actually the only legitimate reason not to wear a mask. I don’t agree with it, but it’s more reasonable than every other excuse combined.
My local 711 sold these early on. Even if you want the cheapest, flimsiest, most “I don’t care but y’all are making me do this” kind of mask, these suck.
The study some are quoting suggested that one particular thin fleece neck gaiter was less effective than no mask (according to their methodology). It didn’t say “all single layer masks are worse than nothing” and it didn’t say “the masks being sold on meh.com on August 18th are worst than nothing”. Just sayin’.
Also the study was more about demonstrating how a cell phone camera could be used to test masks, it wasn’t meant to be a survey of mask types. Indeed, for all but a few trials (the unfilled circles in the chart) there was only one person wearing/testing each mask.
Having said that, I wouldn’t use a single-layer mask, nor a mask made of a stretchy material.
Hey mediocre – it’s really unsafe to offer these at all! It’s been proven that a single layer mask does virtually nothing to limit passing on SARS-CoV-2. Please don’t sell these during the pandemic. There are NOT better than nothing, they’re worse – because some fools will believe that they help at all.
If anyone is interested, I make masks out of plastic sandwich baggies. Guaranteed to stop viruses. I’ve not had a complaint yet from a verified customer.
@tweezak sandwiches baggies are too small you need plastic grocery bags as they fit comfortably over your whole head and have a handy tie off at the bottom to make it 100% airtight
@ConcealedPsycho I had a line like that but they didn’t sell. People didn’t like messing up their hair. Bad enough they say they are concerned about people not being able to see their Botox treatment.
I don’t need any more mask, I swear I have just as many mask as I do shirts now as I’d buy one or two every time I saw them because I was afraid I’d end up misplacing they one I already had and before I knew it I had 20-25 mask but a 50ct box of disposable for family or might need one
This deal reminds me of the Panama papers surprisingly.
The wealthy take the good masks and then leave this shit on Meh hoping we get and spread the virus to knock of the “useless garbage” that most humans are in their opinion.
@grasstread@KewlKevin Well, you’ve read several opinions here from people that you may not have realized are medical professionals. Regardless, it doesn’t take a career in healthcare to read and understand the mask studies that have been performed over the last 6 months.
@grasstread I’m not an MD but a PhD who does infectious disease research for a living. However, people don’t need to have an advanced degree to be scientifically literate and think critically.
@jmoor783 unfortunately some turn their brains off. I see that all the time on cancer lists with people rejecting science in favor of snake oil due to “testimonials”. Umm give me a couple of hours and I can swipe photos from the internet and set up all the testimonials I want too. Failure to use cause and effect reasoning seems to be a well practiced skill of those folks too.
@grasstread@KewlKevin Likely some MD’s are broke due to owing zillions of dollars of student loans that they are still working on paying off. And who doesn’t like a deal (well a deal of something decent that is)? Based on comments, photos that sometimes show some of the inside of some folks’ houses (or outside), I’d guess that there are a fair number of people on here who aren’t living paycheck to paycheck.
If the fact that they are useless isn’t deterrent enough, you can get 5 PCS- Reusable Mask Cloth Washable Breathable Face Cover on eBay for $6.91 (free shipping) and they’ll arrive by Aug 26.
I hate masks! I’ve considered temporary tattoos so you can’t tell if I have a mask on outside the six foot zone ( wish it was ten! ) so I could blast you if you got close enough to notice! Bawahahaha! Anyway pick your poison, we all die!
@rawhid Nobody LIKES masks. But the majority of us also don’t like being responsible for transmitting a potentially virus to others. Wearing a mask is a small price to pay for doing the right thing for your fellow human beings.
Believe me, although we all die, you do not want to do so laying prone in a hospital bed attached to a ventilator while your family is unable to be by your side.
@rawhid Love it. It mehbe could work. They smother me, and I’ve been told off saying that is an excuse, nope I have claustrophobia bad. Lehman Caves will never forget I was there.
@playtek well there ya go, you have convinced me with your superior name calling skills! Mask mask, where’s my mask!.. I think not!
You wear your silly little mask and keep your distance you’ll be fine. Erstwhile I shall party on dude. Name calling is beyond juvenile by the by ole bean. Ta ta!
@richmondhokie Presumably because you came to your senses and realized the benefits of ending the pandemic sooner? Though you’d still want to stack thin masks like these.
Ordered, then cancelled. The ear bits look uncomfortable. Would like to see a pic of someone actually wearing one. Getting sick of seeing pics of what this product might be like should someone deign to wear it.
@themutilator this type is very uncomfortable (and worthless w/o a filter) - got a couple way back in March, when it was all that you could find, and I’ve thrown them away.
@RedOak Fun fact - Munchkins are made separately and are not actually the middle of the donuts! As for the fabric, they probably sold them to that idiot My Pillow guy to shove in some new piece of junk.
@cinoclav that “idiot” is a recovering drug addict who created a very successful business. No need for insults simply due to not liking his religion or politics - that reflects more about the intolerance of the insulter.
@RedOak That idiot is a guy who is pushing oleandrin as a treatment for Covid-19. You know, that stuff that comes from the toxic oleander plant and hasn’t been medically approved to do anything helpful.
I don’t give a fuck about his shitty overpriced pillows, his poor taste in people, or his history of drug abuse. He’s currently proving to be the idiot that I called him.
@RedOak There is a market for ripped clothing, scrap fabric that they then pulverize and turn into rags and recycle into other fabric. A lot of what is donated gets shipped overseas (where it is done) for that purpose (and they are paid for the fabric they bail and ship).
Judging from the picture, these remind me of the really crappy FOAM masks I got from Wish that were one layer with stretchy ear holes. I didn’t trust them for actual use, and they weren’t particularly comfortable either. Though at least meh shipping is generally faster than Wish, there’s no real advantage in getting a useless product faster.
@klynb Ugh. My gf is going to be sad. The 7 Layer Burrito is the only thing she ever orders at TB. Seems like a really dumb move to take that particular item off their menu.
Crappy, thin, polyester masks? Ugh, no thanks. I’ve got some tightly-fitting conical surgical masks from CVS (the last 2 packages they ever had, snagged in late February), some nice KN-95s from Monoprice, and a half-dozen of homemade, double-layer cotton ones (with insert for optional paper filter, and metal nose clip) made by a seamstress friend. The polyester junk is, literally, worse than no mask at all…
@TomShaugh Umm… it’s Meh… do we need to guess? Challenge: what was the last Meh product notmade in China?
Honestly I don’t know, so I’m asking. I’ll try to think of what I’ve seen recently on here. All of I can remember… pretty much China 100%. Now the Wine on the other site; that’s made in US (occasionally Europe). The T-shirts are printed in Texas (AFAIK) on blank shirts from various places.
Hard pass. I bought some of these on eBay, they cost $5 for four, and totally NOT worth it. Not very comfortable, not very protective, not very sturdy.
@ELJAY@vaxick I have a mask that is made out of a likely as stiff as a stiff canvas except it is 3 layers of blown polypropylene (bought on etsy back before all the choices) and because it was designed to have the end of the nose through mouth area away from your face it doesn’t really feel all that different than a disposable mask when it is on your face (other than it doesn’t gap anywhere). The shape makes a difference in that regard.
@marcee As they are one layer, unless you plan to wear 2 at once or wear it over a disposable or the disposable over this… then yes. Of course you could also sew a layer of fabric on the inside (or use fabric glue) and that would help.
But you are not alone making that mistake. 1722 were sold.
@Katielb2 If it came USPS or fedex contact them to make sure they really think it was delivered. It they do then contact support (top of the page under “what is meh”).
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Yeah these are basically useless masks. Next!
@railek Using them after the pandemic is over for bank robbery or something might make more sense.
@Kidsandliz @railek At least you might get a decent Return on Investment.
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@Kidsandliz
Why would I do that, when I already have a Nixon mask with a reliable track record?
@railek
Yeah, it’s BS that “anything is better than nothing…”
There are things that are worse too- e.g., thin, ill-fitting masks that cause a false sense of security.
@Kidsandliz @railek volunteering me and my Honda Fit to be your get away driver.
@Kidsandliz @OnionSoup
You should have said “transporter” in quotes instead of getaway driver for a better effect.
@OnionSoup @railek Honda Fit - that’s one of those vehicles you put 17 clowns in right? If yes we can hide out at the circus after the crime. We’ll have to time the robbery for when the circus is in town. Oh and we’ll need clown masks.
Better than nothing. Neat Meh is offering this.
I already have plenty now though, both homemade and n95’s. So I’ll pass.
@Bandrik No, not really better than nothing. Thin, single layers can actually be worse, since it helps to aerosol-ize the particles, allowing them to remain in the air longer. These are actually useless.
Aerosol-ize, of course, being the official term.
@Bandrik @GeckoD Prove it. In a time of massive misinformation around everything covid, I have never heard or read such a claim that a single-layer mask makes things worse.
@Bandrik @GeckoD @Konraden Here’s some good info on masks.
https://hartfordhealthcare.org/about-us/news-press/news-detail?articleid=27691&publicId=395
@Bandrik @GeckoD @Konraden
a study from Duke University https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/08/07/sciadv.abd3083 (not these particular masks) found that some mask types mask seems to make the distribution of droplets worse. "We noticed that speaking through some masks (particularly the neck fleece) seemed to disperse the largest droplets into a multitude of smaller droplets (see Supplementary Fig. S5), which explains the apparent increase in droplet count relative to no mask in that case. Considering that smaller particles are airborne longer than large droplets (larger droplets sink faster), the use of such a mask might be counterproductive. "
lethal-dependent-pixie
Oh great.
[sigh]
@kdemo
@kdemo @mehcuda67 Well, if you’re going to be both lethal and dependent, at least you got pixie-ness goin’ for ya.
These are useless, ugly, and look supremely uncomfortable.
I’m in.
@TBoneZeOriginal This reminds me of a girl I once met after a few too many drinks.
Yeah, I’d need to know more before I ordered them. Mask quality varies wildly. I finally bagged some on etsy that are three layered quilted cotton with a nose clip inside that do the trick.
Don’t skimp on your masks if you really spend any time out and about.
/giphy don’t mask skimp
@stinks Got asked for the store: She’s on break until the 22nd, but here it is. We’ve purchased eight from her. One was a little bigger than the rest, but they’re all great:
https://www.etsy.com/shop/SewCreativebyHeidi
In my opinion having to double them to make them be even remotely useable for their intended purpose makes them not worth buying… Had they been two layer or even better two layer with a pocket for a filter then I’d be in. Well they’d also have to have a metal piece over the nose that stayed in the shape bent one bent it as that is key in helping prevent glasses fogging.
@Kidsandliz Even when using a mask with a metal nose piece, my glasses still get fogged up. Am I doing it wrong? (I’ve had more success by pushing my glasses a little farther down my nose, to allow the exhalation more room to escape up behind my glasses.)
@Doodpants What I have discovered is that a thicker metal nose piece helps make the wire stay where you bent it and stay tightly to your nose, the bend needs to follow your cheeks too, not just your nose, you have to “tighten” the bend on occasion, and you push the mask up as high as you can on your nose (same effect as pushing your glasses down your nose a bit) without then stabbing yourself in the eyes with the edges of the mask.
I also have found not all masks have been created equal with respect to the nose piece. Before I buy a box I bend the top through whatever they are sealed in and see if it stays, see how thick the wire is… I also ask the people who work in the store which brand they are using and sometimes they are using what is being sold and so far have been able to talk them into letting me handle one and try it on (disposable masks).
I have bought a couple of boxes that seemed good in the store and then sucked on the glasses fogging front wearing them longer as the nose piece still unbent, just much more slowly, or the ear loops pull out easily. I have also found I can then sell my mistakes at 10 masks for $5 in the building I live in when I blow it with my choice and so don’t lose much - or with more of them now at $14.99 for 50 then come out ahead (which fortunately has then covered the other losses on the more expensive boxes).
The KATA ones that Office Depot sells - they let me mess with one as the employees were using them - works better than most I have tried (still not perfect). It does have a problem at first in that the paper is too stiff along the top but it softens after a while and conforms better. As a bonus the ear loops don’t pull out - at least not so far, even with repeated usages. I did have to make very tiny knots in the ear loops to shorten them a bit. The price of those is all over the place. I bought a box of 50 at $14.99. Then they were selling two boxes at a buy one get one free where the price was still $14.99/box. Right now they are $24.99/box. I would presume they will keep playing with the price. Also to get the cheap price you have to buy online (store price is usually not on sale and they won’t price match their online price) and pick up in the store (postage with them is a killer).
I found all the ones the local Lowes, Home Depot, CVS pharmacy, Kroger (although they have a new kind that look promising in but they work out to roughly $40/50 so nope) and Walmart have IN the store all suck. Over half the metal nose piece didn’t stay where you bent it - you could watch it unbend, 2 kinds were in bags where I couldn’t test that through the bag so crossed them off (since they aren’t returnable), some stayed bent but the metal was so thin I figured that would break easily (have had some masks where that happened) or online reviews under negative mentioned, over and over that the loops pull out on the first wearing or while putting them on.
What has worked best for me is the “surgeon” masks with ear loops that MD Anderson gave us if they didn’t like what we came in with for our apts. They have a strip of thin foam along the top, good nose piece and I had no fogging. Unfortunately, when I googled them they are not selling to the public or any retail stores at the moment (which makes sense because of the continuing shortage).
I have read that some folks put some kleenex along the top - I presume gluing it down (not sure) or buy really thin foam and glue that in. In both cases I think why that works is that it absorbs moisture and that decreases fogging. The fogging is sure a PITA though. Especially in over air conditioned stores or when walking past open refrigerated grocery store shelves.
@Doodpants @Kidsandliz Rub a little shaving cream (or a very light soap/water mix) onto the lenses until it dries, then wipe them clean with a microfiber cloth. It’ll keep your glasses from fogging up, for several days at a time!! (I learned this from a nurse friend.)
@Doodpants @Kidsandliz
You could just wash your glasses with soap and use anti-fog. Failing that, for the seal you can use medical tape. Seems way complicated interesting to me about the foam as many I have talked to avoid foam like the plague and only want the wire.
@Doodpants @sippinndippin Both anti-fog stuff and shaving cream seem like a good idea. Does either affect lens coatings or leave streaks? With soap and water I find that seems to streak if there is any soap left no matter how I try to dry it. Is there a trick with that as that certainly would be the cheapest. Medical tape is out for me as I have a skin allergy to tape but that certainly would work as anything that blocks air out the top and/or absorbs moisture solves the problem.
I like the foam strip on the one medical mask I have (well actually I have 4 - one from each day of which one has bit the dust and a second one is close to it) as the is problem solved (well it has a good nose metal strip too- likely would work less well without that) and it doesn’t bother me. Why don’t people like the foam? Does it make it hotter or something? I haven’t noticed that but then mine isn’t a home made solution, plus hot is hot as in sweat dripping down your forehead at some point with these things anyway - foam strip or not.
@Doodpants @Kidsandliz
Depends on what lens coatings you have.
Transitions-I haven’t seen a problem with.
UV- possibly but realize that polycarbonate lenses are supposed to be 100% resistant to degradation from UV and largely resilient to letting UV pass through (degrades over time though).
Anti-glare- possibly contact your eyeglass manufacturer.
Scratch resistant- this is dependent on the lab making it proprietary formulae is impossible to say. Contact manufacturer again,
However, I would suggest after a year or so it’s likely worth it because I get impact craters instead of scratches anyway and I know my time won’t last more than 2 years especially as any adult wearing specs should really have a new vision test every two years anyway (or so I have read).
As far as soap and water I would try and use distilled water. That way water droplets and streaks are less likely. That’s why they sell that stuff at car washes and whatnot. “Spot free rinse.”
Soap quality I mean I would use a scent free liquid soap and if I wanted to really do go for it reckless with streak free glass cleaner (like better life on Amazon),
@Doodpants @sippinndippin UV on plastic lenses along with an anti scratch coating and anti-glare on both sides so I’ll have to look into it. Distilled water is a good suggestion.
@Doodpants @Kidsandliz
Honestly thanks I put in a good amount of thought into it because you had done so for another stranger.
@cbl_wv forgot to tag you in the thanks for the shaving cream suggestion. Sorry about that.
These kinda look like axe sheaths.
Yeah, but FABULOUS sheaths
I think this is the first COVID-19 specific offering, five months after the unofficial start of stay at home and shelter in place orders. They look really uncomfortable. I’d buy 10 of them for a dollar.
@eonfifty they’ve offered hand sanitizer in the recent past
@MrMikenIkes Ah, yes. I forgot about the sanitizer.
There are actually less than useless, and harmful. It fools people and stores into thinking you’re wearing a mask that is even remotely working, but they aren’t. These are polyester as well so won’t even be easy to breathe through and cause itching
@zach_kay392 and yet they have still managed to sell over 1000 of these in less than 30 mins.
@jayman007 since when do people buy the right things? Just because people buying doesn’t make it a good product is that really how you justify this?
@zach_kay392 ohh I’m certainly not one of them. My post was not intended to promote these. Rather to point out how foolish (or selfish) these buyers are.
As other people are saying, don’t cheap out on masks. Wear something with a filter (N95) or multiple layers (surgical style disposable masks). https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/08/07/sciadv.abd3083
@jmoor783 Good luck getting legit ones, though. I’ve had a lacquer project on hold for months, because I can’t get vapor filters from ULine… or anywhere else… or any other filters where I’ve looked.
@finalremix @jmoor783
morningsave has 2 layer paper
not the best but better than these
disposable though.
@finalremix Yeah N95s have been hard to get. I’ve seen kN95s (whatever those are) online and in stores, and 3 layer surgical style masks are easy to get (you can get a box of 50 for $12 at costco right now, limit 5 boxes).
@finalremix @jmoor783 N95 is the US standard, KN95 is the Chinese standard. Depends on where it’s certified.
Article on the differences
https://www.rollingstone.com/product-recommendations/lifestyle/n95-vs-kn95-masks-1044184/amp/
Meh, should pull the sale. Unsafe. Worse than no mask.
As others have noted, it breaks larger dangerous droplets into smaller more dangerous droplets that travel farther.
https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/08/07/sciadv.abd3083
So what I’m gathering from the comments here is that these are perfect for people who don’t give a fuck & just don’t want to be hassled going to the grocery store.
I’m thinking these will sell out.
@RogerWilco the thing is it’s actually cheaper to buy surgical masks you get more for less and it’s better you’re paying for polyester design like I said it’s less than useless
@RogerWilco @zach_kay392
hurts like hell too
this design doesn’t make the ears happy
No one care who I was till I purchased these masks.
These look like the shitty foam ones I wasted money on early in the pandemic. They’re great if you need to blow out your birthday candles while wearing a mask, but you don’t actually want to help slow the pandemic.
Stich two together and put a filter inside to make a real mask. That is not a bad price for 2 and a half masks, and some of the patterns look nice.
@hchavers that’s about 4 bucks for a mask. You can get a 3 layer cotton mask with a pocket for a filter for less than 5. These are polyester. U won’t breathe through 1, yet alone 2. Plus u want to add the filter? No nose piece plus no elastic for ear which means it will get strerched and fall off face. Again. Less than useless.
Meh… who wears a mask anyway? These things are useless unless you want to mug someone in broad daylight!
@katsuronishi I wear a mask because I care about other people and want to help protect them from a deadly virus. I would hope others would wear masks for the same reason.
These particular masks that are being offered do seem pretty useless but that’s not to say you shouldn’t wear one at all. You should. You really, really, really should.
@katsuronishi @peaceetc
Caring about other people hmm.
Probably had a significantly different life experience than me, I am still trying to get that back.
@sippinndippin Feel free to instead care about the economy, or getting back to normal faster. Both great reasons to wear a mask.
@raive
Probably not. It actually benefits me to see the economy struggle. I am undervalued and underpaid so with the death of the economy I am actually getting much like everyone else, in good times I will just get shit on. It actually works out to I can see solidarity in the struggles of the economy, While things will undoubtedly get more expensive its certainly been doing that in a healthy economy as well.
@sippinndippin Wanting to watch the world burn is actually the only legitimate reason not to wear a mask. I don’t agree with it, but it’s more reasonable than every other excuse combined.
You should be ashamed, oh wait you’re in Texas. You have no shame.
My local 711 sold these early on. Even if you want the cheapest, flimsiest, most “I don’t care but y’all are making me do this” kind of mask, these suck.
The study some are quoting suggested that one particular thin fleece neck gaiter was less effective than no mask (according to their methodology). It didn’t say “all single layer masks are worse than nothing” and it didn’t say “the masks being sold on meh.com on August 18th are worst than nothing”. Just sayin’.
Also the study was more about demonstrating how a cell phone camera could be used to test masks, it wasn’t meant to be a survey of mask types. Indeed, for all but a few trials (the unfilled circles in the chart) there was only one person wearing/testing each mask.
Having said that, I wouldn’t use a single-layer mask, nor a mask made of a stretchy material.
Hey mediocre – it’s really unsafe to offer these at all! It’s been proven that a single layer mask does virtually nothing to limit passing on SARS-CoV-2. Please don’t sell these during the pandemic. There are NOT better than nothing, they’re worse – because some fools will believe that they help at all.
If anyone is interested, I make masks out of plastic sandwich baggies. Guaranteed to stop viruses. I’ve not had a complaint yet from a verified customer.
@tweezak I’m waiting for a suffocation joke here.
Guaranteed to stop the virus because it killed the host.
No?
Well color me curious. Post a photo!
@RogerWilco Maybe I didn’t lay on the sarcasm thick enough. I’ll try harder next time.
@tweezak sandwiches baggies are too small you need plastic grocery bags as they fit comfortably over your whole head and have a handy tie off at the bottom to make it 100% airtight
@ConcealedPsycho That’s more like it.
Bravo.
@ConcealedPsycho I had a line like that but they didn’t sell. People didn’t like messing up their hair. Bad enough they say they are concerned about people not being able to see their Botox treatment.
From the specs these are bad - awful - masks. Meh should not sell these. They could give a false sense of security to the wearer.
I don’t need any more mask, I swear I have just as many mask as I do shirts now as I’d buy one or two every time I saw them because I was afraid I’d end up misplacing they one I already had and before I knew it I had 20-25 mask but a 50ct box of disposable for family or might need one
This deal reminds me of the Panama papers surprisingly.
The wealthy take the good masks and then leave this shit on Meh hoping we get and spread the virus to knock of the “useless garbage” that most humans are in their opinion.
OH MY GOD THEY MASKED GLEN!!!
@shahnm He looks pretty stylish, don’t you think?
As others have said, you really shouldn’t be selling these. I’m highly disappointed in everyone who approved this sale.
These are for the people who resent wearing masks and just want to pick up a few items at Wally World. Wear your own thick mask to fight their germs
I didn’t know so many doctors shopped on meh.
@grasstread I know right!
@grasstread @KewlKevin Well, you’ve read several opinions here from people that you may not have realized are medical professionals. Regardless, it doesn’t take a career in healthcare to read and understand the mask studies that have been performed over the last 6 months.
@grasstread I’m not an MD but a PhD who does infectious disease research for a living. However, people don’t need to have an advanced degree to be scientifically literate and think critically.
@jmoor783 unfortunately some turn their brains off. I see that all the time on cancer lists with people rejecting science in favor of snake oil due to “testimonials”. Umm give me a couple of hours and I can swipe photos from the internet and set up all the testimonials I want too. Failure to use cause and effect reasoning seems to be a well practiced skill of those folks too.
@grasstread @KewlKevin Likely some MD’s are broke due to owing zillions of dollars of student loans that they are still working on paying off. And who doesn’t like a deal (well a deal of something decent that is)? Based on comments, photos that sometimes show some of the inside of some folks’ houses (or outside), I’d guess that there are a fair number of people on here who aren’t living paycheck to paycheck.
If the fact that they are useless isn’t deterrent enough, you can get 5 PCS- Reusable Mask Cloth Washable Breathable Face Cover on eBay for $6.91 (free shipping) and they’ll arrive by Aug 26.
I hate masks! I’ve considered temporary tattoos so you can’t tell if I have a mask on outside the six foot zone ( wish it was ten! ) so I could blast you if you got close enough to notice! Bawahahaha! Anyway pick your poison, we all die!
@rawhid Nobody LIKES masks. But the majority of us also don’t like being responsible for transmitting a potentially virus to others. Wearing a mask is a small price to pay for doing the right thing for your fellow human beings.
Believe me, although we all die, you do not want to do so laying prone in a hospital bed attached to a ventilator while your family is unable to be by your side.
*potentially deadly virus
@rawhid yes we all die, but you shouldn’t get to be an aśshole and decide when others get to die because you hate wearing a mask.
@rawhid Love it. It mehbe could work. They smother me, and I’ve been told off saying that is an excuse, nope I have claustrophobia bad. Lehman Caves will never forget I was there.
@playtek well there ya go, you have convinced me with your superior name calling skills! Mask mask, where’s my mask!.. I think not!
You wear your silly little mask and keep your distance you’ll be fine. Erstwhile I shall party on dude. Name calling is beyond juvenile by the by ole bean. Ta ta!
I’m a maskhole…why would I buy these
@richmondhokie Presumably because you came to your senses and realized the benefits of ending the pandemic sooner? Though you’d still want to stack thin masks like these.
Ordered, then cancelled. The ear bits look uncomfortable. Would like to see a pic of someone actually wearing one. Getting sick of seeing pics of what this product might be like should someone deign to wear it.
@themutilator this type is very uncomfortable (and worthless w/o a filter) - got a couple way back in March, when it was all that you could find, and I’ve thrown them away.
@cbl_wv @themutilator I see a lot of this type on the ground in parking lots.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@cbl_wv @themutilator Oh dang, really. Are they seriously, Also are they for people with kind of a big head? Are they tight? Thanks
So is anybody else wondering what the manufacturer does with the fabric punched out from those ear holes?
At least Dunkin’ Donuts can sell boxes of “donut holes”.
@RedOak Fun fact - Munchkins are made separately and are not actually the middle of the donuts! As for the fabric, they probably sold them to that idiot My Pillow guy to shove in some new piece of junk.
@cinoclav that “idiot” is a recovering drug addict who created a very successful business. No need for insults simply due to not liking his religion or politics - that reflects more about the intolerance of the insulter.
@RedOak That idiot is a guy who is pushing oleandrin as a treatment for Covid-19. You know, that stuff that comes from the toxic oleander plant and hasn’t been medically approved to do anything helpful.
I don’t give a fuck about his shitty overpriced pillows, his poor taste in people, or his history of drug abuse. He’s currently proving to be the idiot that I called him.
@RedOak There is a market for ripped clothing, scrap fabric that they then pulverize and turn into rags and recycle into other fabric. A lot of what is donated gets shipped overseas (where it is done) for that purpose (and they are paid for the fabric they bail and ship).
If you want to know why he’s an idiot…
Judging from the picture, these remind me of the really crappy FOAM masks I got from Wish that were one layer with stretchy ear holes. I didn’t trust them for actual use, and they weren’t particularly comfortable either. Though at least meh shipping is generally faster than Wish, there’s no real advantage in getting a useless product faster.
More layers is better. I prefer strapping a 7-layer burrito to my face.
@Doodpants
@Doodpants a delicious solution to one of life’s many problems!
@Doodpants I tried that last week; Taco Bell discontinued the 7-Layer Burrito.
@klynb Ugh. My gf is going to be sad. The 7 Layer Burrito is the only thing she ever orders at TB. Seems like a really dumb move to take that particular item off their menu.
@cinoclav @klynb Oh no! If we can’t find a seven-layer burrito, can we substitute seven-layer nachos?
@cinoclav @mehcuda67 If we can get the meatless versions, I’m fine with that.
Crappy, thin, polyester masks? Ugh, no thanks. I’ve got some tightly-fitting conical surgical masks from CVS (the last 2 packages they ever had, snagged in late February), some nice KN-95s from Monoprice, and a half-dozen of homemade, double-layer cotton ones (with insert for optional paper filter, and metal nose clip) made by a seamstress friend. The polyester junk is, literally, worse than no mask at all…
Ahem, cant find where they’re made
@TomShaugh Umm… it’s Meh… do we need to guess? Challenge: what was the last Meh product not made in China?
Honestly I don’t know, so I’m asking. I’ll try to think of what I’ve seen recently on here. All of I can remember… pretty much China 100%. Now the Wine on the other site; that’s made in US (occasionally Europe). The T-shirts are printed in Texas (AFAIK) on blank shirts from various places.
@pmarin @TomShaugh Uh, They had some beans a while ago. I don’t think they were from China…
Hard pass. I bought some of these on eBay, they cost $5 for four, and totally NOT worth it. Not very comfortable, not very protective, not very sturdy.
I agree with what many others have said. It’s irresponsible for Meh to sell these masks, & I’m disappointed.
Hard to believe people are buying this shit
/image shit
CDC recommends three layers. I use a four layer mask myself. Two layers of canvas and two nonwoven layers.
@vaxick Isn’t canvas too stiff?
@ELJAY It’s a domed masked so it fits and looks more like your traditional dusk or n95 mask.
@ELJAY @vaxick I have a mask that is made out of a likely as stiff as a stiff canvas except it is 3 layers of blown polypropylene (bought on etsy back before all the choices) and because it was designed to have the end of the nose through mouth area away from your face it doesn’t really feel all that different than a disposable mask when it is on your face (other than it doesn’t gap anywhere). The shape makes a difference in that regard.
So what you’re saying is… I shouldn’t have bought these?
@marcee As they are one layer, unless you plan to wear 2 at once or wear it over a disposable or the disposable over this… then yes. Of course you could also sew a layer of fabric on the inside (or use fabric glue) and that would help.
But you are not alone making that mistake. 1722 were sold.
It says that my order was delivered but I did not receive it. How am I to proceed?
@Katielb2 If it came USPS or fedex contact them to make sure they really think it was delivered. It they do then contact support (top of the page under “what is meh”).
These are VERY soft. Adding an extra layer for protection will be easy.
My thought was to buy these to wear under the masks I already have so they would stop getting in my mouth. These are not good for that!
Shame on me for wasting money on these. They are already in the garage.
@bethmueller77 I think you’re missing a b.
@bethmueller77
Good catch
In the garBage
I never got my mask of meh from meh.