@OnionSoup You’re actually supposed to. It helps keep healthy bacteria in your gut and prevents you from getting diarrhea or yeast infections. A lot of the times antibiotics will kill good bacteria that your body needs.
Thank you for including the actual ingredient label!! My household has multiple food allergies/sensitivities, and that helps enormously in deciding if they’d actually get used.
noted this in the reviews (just an FYI, not a criticism)
“The amount of sweetener is below amounts generally associated with common side-effects for malitol, but if you are sensitive to sorbitol or xylitol, then this may be problematic for you as malitol is in the same classification as a refined sugar alcohol, with the same noted side effects (or back-side effects, as the case may be)”
I may take these for an extra six months. I noticed the little trick you pulled: one bottle lasts a person an entire month, and 12 bottles last TWO people until the end of the year. It’s just me and my kitty here, and I don’t think he’d especially like them. Therefore, I will take them all myself and hope I don’t die from rancid probiotic stuffs. That would be sooo sad.
Each bottle is supposed to have 60 gummies. But at 95 degrees outside, I have the feeling this is going to arrive as 12 large gummies, each in its own bottle.
Apparently, there are no proximity benefits from the mathematics department of your local school either. 33.6 billion is about 5 times 4 billion??? Some people should be banned from the use of numbers! Like government officials who round 1.8 billion dollars to 2 billion. If they have no use for that crummy 200 million dollars, I will happily take it.
@dave I did that indirectly when telling my wife about it. I said 12-pack and my wife was like “that doesn’t sound like very many”, and I went “well, 12 bottles, not just 12 pills. And there’s apparently 4 billion in each serving, so now it sounds like a lot more than 12.”
@growyoungagain Bacillus coagulans produces lactic acid and, as a result, is often misclassified as lactic acid bacteria such as lactobacillus. In fact, some commercial products containing Bacillus coagulans are marketed as Lactobacillus sporogenes or “spore-forming lactic acid bacterium.” Unlike lactic acid bacteria such as lactobacillus or bifidobacteria, Bacillus coagulans forms reproductive structures called spores. Spores are actually an important factor in telling Bacillus coagulans apart from lactic acid bacteria.
@TheMeerkat work on the microbiome suggests there are 30+ normal strains of various bacteria supporting different digestive, absorptive, and metabolic pathways, so supplementing just one is likely not to be optimal.
When ingredients list “natural flavors,” is that actually something they add to the product or are they just saying that no flavors are added so the taste you get is from the other ingredients naturally?
@support It means the flavors come from natural sources, but they do not have to list the exact sources to maintain trade secrets. (For example, if there was vanilla flavor, it would have to come from vanilla bean extract, not vanillin to be a natural flavor.)
@alose@support in the US, natural flavor means that the source chemical was natural but you are permitted to chemically alter it. Basically, MDMA could be considered a natural flavor under US law since it can be made from sassafras root bark.
The only effect you are likely to get from this is the placebo effect. That said the placebo effect can be very powerful assuming you also get any appropriate medical treatment. Paying $2 a bottle for a placebo is a lot better than paying $20 a bottle for it.
@bensparkle But studies have shown that placebos are more effective when they’re more expensive, so actually paying $20 a bottle for a placebo is better!
Ideally you have someone else pay very little and just tell you they paid $20.
I’m surprised no one is mentioning that probiotics die in the harsh acids of the stomach. I have read numerous articles on how you need to take probiotics in enteric coated capsules so that they are released in the intestine. I suspect the effects of these are the same as eating a jujube.
@Fuzzalini people are now able to do fecal transplants orally. It takes like 30 capsules, though. I just figured if those critters were able to survive, these gummies might have a fighting chance. The microbiome in our gut is a miraculous, wonderful thing.
@4771cu5 I would not be surprised if the fecal transplants are in enteric capsules. Even my fish oil is in enteric capsules. My best friend works for the premier pharmaceutical grade supplement company (you can only buy them through doctors) and all of their probiotics all come in enteric capsules. They wouldn’t do that without a reason.
Supports daily digestive health. (This statement has not been evaluated by the Food & Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease)
Contains 4 billion live probiotic cultures in each serving
Sugar-free, dairy-free, yeast-free, gelatin-free, wheat-free, egg-free, peanut-free, and gluten-free
We live in a collective society. There are obvious costs (and subsequent benefits) to it. If you don’t like “government theft” then go start your own country somewhere. Good luck building roads.
@haydesigner I didn’t say I didn’t like it. Just calling a spade a spade. Of course I love forcefully being able to hand over more money for causes I don’t approve of; it’s the patriotic thing to do.
My doctor has me taking at least 50 billion per day. At this rate that’s 25 of these gummies with 1250 calories, or 2 servings per bottle. Sorry, gotta pass on this low dose nonsense.
Gotta love WebMD–while they list all the possible uses for this gummy treat, they always come back to the data
(insert The Price is Right Fail Horns sound here):
@cinoclav@RiotDemon Should have Snoped it first. Instead the local radio station morning show did a bit on Beaver flavorings and coincidentally this product showed up on Meh. I couldn’t resist posting and now I’m embarrassed.
@hyyield63 Ugh. As someone who works in healthcare, I despise WebMD. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard, “I looked this up on WebMD…” Me: “Yeah, forget everything you read there, it’s wrong.”
@aetris@cinoclav. Yeah also forget just about everything Mayo posts online, unless in the notes their research came from like a John Hopkins or Harvard.
@aetris@growyoungagain From my personal experience, topics researched on Mayo that I’m already familiar with have been pretty accurate. Enough so that I give them the benefit of the doubt on topics unknown.
@aetris@cinoclav@growyoungagain The stuff they cite is peer reviewed in, mostly, tier one (eg A) journals. I it is one of the more reputable sites out there for “alternative” approaches and whether or not there is credible science either supporting or not supporting claims.
@aetris@cinoclav@Kidsandliz From personal experience of being both a patient and working at Mayo they were very consevative in the treatments that they used. They would wait for rsearch that would come from the East and West coasts and then maybe embrace a new treatment modality etc. I agree that they do a pretty good job online in taking on pseudoscience or alternative therapy topics. This is a more recent development in part because they have given themselves the title “Destination Medical Center”
I always like to take probiotics with antibiotics and let them fight to the end.
@kdemo I thought you wanted to see a superbug.
What happens if you take probiotics and antibiotics at the same time. Is that like combining matter and antimatter?
@OnionSoup You’re actually supposed to. It helps keep healthy bacteria in your gut and prevents you from getting diarrhea or yeast infections. A lot of the times antibiotics will kill good bacteria that your body needs.
@OnionSoup @SteveOOO ‘‘To avoid this potential interaction take Bacillus coagulans products at least 2 hours before or after antibiotics.’’
Thank you for including the actual ingredient label!! My household has multiple food allergies/sensitivities, and that helps enormously in deciding if they’d actually get used.
It will be interesting to see how many people pay $5 per bottle when $1.67 per bottle is also a choice.
@The_Tim That’s the psychology trick here, the 2 bottle option is there to make the 12 bottle option look like a good deal.
@The_Tim Maybe some folks just want to fart a little.
noted this in the reviews (just an FYI, not a criticism)
“The amount of sweetener is below amounts generally associated with common side-effects for malitol, but if you are sensitive to sorbitol or xylitol, then this may be problematic for you as malitol is in the same classification as a refined sugar alcohol, with the same noted side effects (or back-side effects, as the case may be)”
@Kidsandliz Xylitol is usually less annoying to the gut than Maltitol. That’s the worst.
I may take these for an extra six months. I noticed the little trick you pulled: one bottle lasts a person an entire month, and 12 bottles last TWO people until the end of the year. It’s just me and my kitty here, and I don’t think he’d especially like them. Therefore, I will take them all myself and hope I don’t die from rancid probiotic stuffs. That would be sooo sad.
If you dissolve these berry flavored probiotics in water, can you call it a gut punch?
Ah yes, the rare Primadophilus…
Medical experts have determined that persons described as “medical experts” are not necessarily medical experts.
@aetris 99 percent of all statistics only tell 49 percent of the story.
@aetris @therealjrn 67% of statistics are made up on the spot.
@aetris @RiotDemon @therealjrn
45.36% of penguins who are placid, don’t use statistics often.
Am I too late for sweaty sheets?
/giphy I missed the sweaty sheets, man
@stinks That picture was… not the joke I’d intended.
@stinks Are you sure?
Why so I suddenly hear cheesy disco music?
@stinks I’ll be in my bunk…
@Blahbbs @stinks Seeking a bit of personal serenity?
Each bottle is supposed to have 60 gummies. But at 95 degrees outside, I have the feeling this is going to arrive as 12 large gummies, each in its own bottle.
@plaware candy corn all over again.
@plaware and probably all the cultures would have died from the heat.
Apparently, there are no proximity benefits from the mathematics department of your local school either. 33.6 billion is about 5 times 4 billion??? Some people should be banned from the use of numbers! Like government officials who round 1.8 billion dollars to 2 billion. If they have no use for that crummy 200 million dollars, I will happily take it.
4 billion live probing creatures in each serving
@RogerWilco I was very tempted to label this a 1.44-Trillion-Pack for $20.
@dave I did that indirectly when telling my wife about it. I said 12-pack and my wife was like “that doesn’t sound like very many”, and I went “well, 12 bottles, not just 12 pills. And there’s apparently 4 billion in each serving, so now it sounds like a lot more than 12.”
What a gummy deal tonight !
@AttyVette This may be my fave part of WebMD…the part where they list the uses and then COMPLETELY DISREGARD the efficacy! Classic:
@hyyield63 I’ve never heard of Bacillus Coagulan. The most common strain is Lactobacillus Acidophilus.
@growyoungagain Bacillus coagulans produces lactic acid and, as a result, is often misclassified as lactic acid bacteria such as lactobacillus. In fact, some commercial products containing Bacillus coagulans are marketed as Lactobacillus sporogenes or “spore-forming lactic acid bacterium.” Unlike lactic acid bacteria such as lactobacillus or bifidobacteria, Bacillus coagulans forms reproductive structures called spores. Spores are actually an important factor in telling Bacillus coagulans apart from lactic acid bacteria.
@growyoungagain @hyyield63
@growyoungagain @hyyield63
@growyoungagain Apparently whatever @mehmax said was either removed or deleted? I don’t see anything by way of a reply…just 2 attempts & no text
@growyoungagain @hyyield63 @mehmax
That’s ironic. So @mehmax is really @mehmin?
Vegetable juice color.
This ingredient disturbs me.
@yakkoTDI yes, I’d much rather it contain monodilithium hydroxisodiumparbenzonate.
@OnionSoup @yakkoTDI That’s easy for you to say.
@OnionSoup @yakkoTDI
/giphy we need dilithium crystals
@OnionSoup @shaconaqe @yakkoTDI. Beets are used many times to achieve a natural red color.
As the archers‐versus‐tanks comment communicated, more important than “how many bacteria” is “what strain”, and apparently the bacillus coagulans used in these is actually medically useful for something: “Bacillus coagulans significantly improved abdominal pain and bloating in patients with IBS.”
@TheMeerkat work on the microbiome suggests there are 30+ normal strains of various bacteria supporting different digestive, absorptive, and metabolic pathways, so supplementing just one is likely not to be optimal.
@mike808 I had no intention of implying otherwise, just that these seemed to be genuinely useful in certain cases.
stocking stuffers. Expired ones.
/giphy talkative-waxing-haircut
Does these turn into protein powder after the expiration date?
How about buying enough to give these out for trick or treat? Only have to decide what to tell the police when they come calling.
Where’d you find the high school picture of @skemmehs
@lichme I just tried giphying a bad joke, and it appeared.
Oh, you mean on the write-up.
Isn’t Maltilol the active ingredient in the infamous sugar free gummy bears (or butterflies )
@duodec i was thinking the same thing…
/youtube sugar free gummy bears
@duodec Yes it is. Pretty ironic that they’re sweetening a digestive health supplement with the digestive-bomb sugar alcohol.
When ingredients list “natural flavors,” is that actually something they add to the product or are they just saying that no flavors are added so the taste you get is from the other ingredients naturally?
@support It means natural flavoring was added.
@support It means the flavors come from natural sources, but they do not have to list the exact sources to maintain trade secrets. (For example, if there was vanilla flavor, it would have to come from vanilla bean extract, not vanillin to be a natural flavor.)
@support FYI, natural flavors can be sourced from the castor sacs of beavers, which often contain fecal matter and urine.
mmmm… beaver effluvia.
@alose @support in the US, natural flavor means that the source chemical was natural but you are permitted to chemically alter it. Basically, MDMA could be considered a natural flavor under US law since it can be made from sassafras root bark.
I’ll probe your iotic.
/giphy belligerent overwrought elk
@narfcake Damn.
@narfcake
Be careful what you eat.
@PlacidPenguin Did you ever finish that list of videos?
@narfcake
I had most of the list completed, but then something happened to the document.
Sigh…
@PlacidPenguin Perhaps take a break from counting all the catshirts (that you don’t have) and start over?
Have you at least blamed the goat?
@narfcake All for nought. Good try though!
The only effect you are likely to get from this is the placebo effect. That said the placebo effect can be very powerful assuming you also get any appropriate medical treatment. Paying $2 a bottle for a placebo is a lot better than paying $20 a bottle for it.
@bensparkle That’s not in the least bit true. Take it from someone who uses a probiotic with very positive effects on my GI system.
@cinoclav So how much do you spend in depends a month now?
@davidfast Improv class dropout?
@bensparkle But studies have shown that placebos are more effective when they’re more expensive, so actually paying $20 a bottle for a placebo is better!
Ideally you have someone else pay very little and just tell you they paid $20.
I’m surprised no one is mentioning that probiotics die in the harsh acids of the stomach. I have read numerous articles on how you need to take probiotics in enteric coated capsules so that they are released in the intestine. I suspect the effects of these are the same as eating a jujube.
@Fuzzalini people are now able to do fecal transplants orally. It takes like 30 capsules, though. I just figured if those critters were able to survive, these gummies might have a fighting chance. The microbiome in our gut is a miraculous, wonderful thing.
@4771cu5 I would not be surprised if the fecal transplants are in enteric capsules. Even my fish oil is in enteric capsules. My best friend works for the premier pharmaceutical grade supplement company (you can only buy them through doctors) and all of their probiotics all come in enteric capsules. They wouldn’t do that without a reason.
@Fuzzalini That’s one of the reasons I use this one. It’s rated highly to survive the stomach acids.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007IQMVG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
I’m trying them.
/giphy noted-lengthy-cocktail
@mehmoth - Be sure to tell us all about your subsequent poops!
Specs
What’s in the Box?
2x or 12x bottles of Nature’s Way Probiotic Gummies
Price Comparison
$18.70 - $112.20 (for 2 - 12) at Amazon
Warranty
90 day Mediocre
Estimated Delivery
Wednesday, July 15th - Monday, July 20th
Why is there sales tax on this item in Texas if it is a supplement?
@4771cu5 Try it now, that should be fixed.
@Thumperchick I sent some to my child’s mother in CA and there was sales tax, but I don’t know about CA laws
@Thumperchick now sending some to me in TX had no government theft.
@4771cu5: “government theft”
We live in a collective society. There are obvious costs (and subsequent benefits) to it. If you don’t like “government theft” then go start your own country somewhere. Good luck building roads.
@4771cu5 CA does charge sales tax on these, TX doesn’t.
@haydesigner I didn’t say I didn’t like it. Just calling a spade a spade. Of course I love forcefully being able to hand over more money for causes I don’t approve of; it’s the patriotic thing to do.
Only ONE strain of probiotic?!?!?! Not even a full Meh for these.
If I melted 3-12 packs how large of a probiotic Gummy bear can I create?
Huge news, my arcade cabinet is nearly done! Also cool these will help me expel the sawdust from my colon?
vodka soaked probiotic gummies coming soon
I usually take the Digestive Advantage probiotic, but I’ve spent more for less useful ‘crap’ so…
/giphy humdrum-spicy-doll
Ha. Giphy jackpot.
@cinoclav I feel like giphy is entering a dark adolescent phase.
/giphy crooked-grisly-toothpaste
My doctor has me taking at least 50 billion per day. At this rate that’s 25 of these gummies with 1250 calories, or 2 servings per bottle. Sorry, gotta pass on this low dose nonsense.
@donrull Are you eating superglue ?
Gotta love WebMD–while they list all the possible uses for this gummy treat, they always come back to the data
(insert The Price is Right Fail Horns sound here):
Did you know berry and other flavors are made from Beaver anal gland secretions; castoreum. It is usually listed as “natural ingredients”
@accelerator Yum! All natural!
/I wonder what the beavers think of the anal gland secretions harvesting?
@accelerator Ehh… it’s not really used in food anymore. You might still find it in fragrances though.
@accelerator @cinoclav yep. Misinformation.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/castoreum/
@cinoclav @RiotDemon Should have Snoped it first. Instead the local radio station morning show did a bit on Beaver flavorings and coincidentally this product showed up on Meh. I couldn’t resist posting and now I’m embarrassed.
@accelerator No big deal. You weren’t technically wrong about it.
If it’s not refrigerated it won’t do the good probiotics need to be refrigerated
@Viper1 Not true. Some probiotics need to be refrigerated, but most of the common OTC supplements do not. In particular, the strain in these, bacillus coagulans, does not need to be refrigerated.
https://www.consumerlab.com/answers/which-probiotics-require-refrigeration/probiotic_refrigeration/
@cinoclav @Viper1 Gotta love WebMD & their positive spin based on lack of clinical data:
@hyyield63 Ugh. As someone who works in healthcare, I despise WebMD. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard, “I looked this up on WebMD…” Me: “Yeah, forget everything you read there, it’s wrong.”
@cinoclav - The Mayo Clinic has a website, but the name isn’t as catchy…
@aetris I do tend to use them more often than most sites when researching online.
@aetris @cinoclav. Yeah also forget just about everything Mayo posts online, unless in the notes their research came from like a John Hopkins or Harvard.
@aetris @growyoungagain From my personal experience, topics researched on Mayo that I’m already familiar with have been pretty accurate. Enough so that I give them the benefit of the doubt on topics unknown.
@aetris @cinoclav @growyoungagain The stuff they cite is peer reviewed in, mostly, tier one (eg A) journals. I it is one of the more reputable sites out there for “alternative” approaches and whether or not there is credible science either supporting or not supporting claims.
@aetris @cinoclav @Kidsandliz From personal experience of being both a patient and working at Mayo they were very consevative in the treatments that they used. They would wait for rsearch that would come from the East and West coasts and then maybe embrace a new treatment modality etc. I agree that they do a pretty good job online in taking on pseudoscience or alternative therapy topics. This is a more recent development in part because they have given themselves the title “Destination Medical Center”
I hadn’t heard of the Avocado dude before, so thanks for that.
2-OR-12-PACK: NATURE’S WAY FORTIFY GUMMY PROBIOTICS
QUANTITY: 1 2 BOTTLES @ $10
10 free bottles
@da5id403
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/image productive-offensive-mosquito
Has anyone had theirs ship yet? It usually doesn’t take this long for an order to ship.
@Eagles409
@Eagles409 nope
@Eagles409 Hurry……. I’m bound up like a kidnap victim
Do I have to chew these? I keep getting gummy stuck in my teeth like caramel. I’m wondering if I can just swallow these like a pill.
They expire in November 2018! How am I going to possibly going to use all these bottles! Hmmm… I wonder if they make good fertilizer…