@Stallion depends on the situation... I mean if you are looking for serious security, then yes, anything wireless does... but if you are just using them as local video monitors (think 4 channel baby monitor, or prank monitors, etc) then they are pretty handy.
@Stallion I bought these awhile back and use them to monitor cats while I am away. The quality is fine for that. You can have them active recording on sound or motion which works 97% of the time. You are limited to 25 recordings a day though. Night visions is pretty much zero. I have been happy with them for the price and plan to buy the night vision ones if they come back through Meh.
@ojohn So you can save up to 100 with a limit of 25 recordings taken a day. When you run out of your daily allotment it sends a notification and an image but doesn't save video.
@ojohn "While we continue to investigate the possibility of a subscription service that would allow for some customization, ideally we would like to help you reduce the number of alerts your IZON uploads."
Be aware, these cameras do not store or stream video locally -- they stream to the company's cloud, and you view them from there. This may be good for you if you need to view these remotely, but bad for you if you want to keep the video feed inside your home network.
@halnwheels they do have local streaming unlimited, if you stream over the wan it has a 5 min timeout per camera for live viewing.
There is no fee structure that I can find... people claim that it quits letting them save videos to the servers.... but I have not run into that ever (I don't have a lot of "events" however, that might be the key?) they claim that it offers them no paid option for more recorded events as well... so no idea on that part.
But if you are on the same LAN as the cameras, there is no time out and unlimited streaming... hence my opinion that these are great little easy to setup short term video monitors... but not a great security system (yes you do need internet access to get the lan streaming started, but once they are located it doesn't send the feed up and back in, it does a direct connection with the phone/tablet).
@Kurtois Stem, the company that makes these, was surprisingly open about the situation. Quick synopsis: I was sent a device with a test MAC address. Another person had same address. Mine wouldn't connect. An engineer "fixed" the problem by updating private key, but did it on the wrong account (not knowing there was a collision of addresses). Suddenly I could connect to my camera if it last checked in, the other person's if their's had last checked in.
I was sent a new device, told they would prevent the problem in the future by not allowing duplication of addresses nor allow manual overwrites of keys. Nevertheless, I only use these devices now in situations where I'm comfortable with the possibility of someone else seeing.
Is this the company? I know the news article is from 2013 but I would not want to buy anything from a company like this...
Stanislav documented troubling security lapses including a wide-open configuration with exposed ports for accessing the device by Telnet and HTTP. IZON also used unencrypted communications and video streaming to and from the devices and an undocumented and hidden username and password for each camera’s Web backend that could allow a remote attacker to spy on the camera’s owner.
I'm a little sketched out about having cameras inside my house. That being said, I used to leave the garage door up all the time, and would be about to fall asleep thinking "Did I?" Go outside, look, and sure enough it was closed.
I set one up in the garage and problem solved. Although new problem created: The signal interfered with the garage door opener.
These camera are perfect. The only problem for me is that when the WiFi connection is good, you cannot see what’s going on until the connection is back up. Which is not on the cameras. They detect sound and movement. Love that feature. I am buying two more with the night vision.
Well, that was not what I anticipated when I purchased these:
Sept 4, 2018
Dear Valued Stem Customer,
We are very sorry to inform you that Izon will cease doing business on September 30th. The Company has been unable to secure funding for continued operations and is winding down. Cameras will continue to operate through the end of September. The customer support desk has been closed and is no longer responding to customer requests.
Just got the same email. Izon is gone! That blows!!! Is there maybe a tutorial somewhere that shows how to use these cameras another way or with another app?
Specs
Condition: New
Warranty: 1 Year Izon
Estimated Delivery: 3/30 - 4/1
Shipping: $5 or free with VMP
What’s in the Box?
2x Izon video monitor and base
2x Mounting hardware
2x 9’ power cable
2x AC power supply
2x Quick start guide
Pictures
Retail boxes
Scale
Back of box
Mounting
Moving angle
Hiding
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Price Comparison
$399.98 List, $107.98 (for 2) at Amazon
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Warranty
90 days
Meh, these suck don't they?
@Stallion depends on the situation... I mean if you are looking for serious security, then yes, anything wireless does... but if you are just using them as local video monitors (think 4 channel baby monitor, or prank monitors, etc) then they are pretty handy.
@Stallion I bought these awhile back and use them to monitor cats while I am away. The quality is fine for that. You can have them active recording on sound or motion which works 97% of the time. You are limited to 25 recordings a day though. Night visions is pretty much zero.
I have been happy with them for the price and plan to buy the night vision ones if they come back through Meh.
Site took a long time to respond so I thought it was FUKU night. Oh well, goodnight.
@cengland0
Assumed the same thing. Never gotten the damn thing to load on fuku nights before H+ 05 minutes.
@cengland0 Oh, is word on the street that Fuku is coming around again? Maybe with the Easter Bunny this time...
Monitoring this deal
@AttyVette Keeping my eyes on it.
I's on my way outta here ...
IZON?
I-Zoff.
Meh.
has there been a day where meh does not sell even 1? maybe this is it...
Would these have the same strange issues as the other twofer that I got here? The video is purple. Like @barney purple.
@Kirgen Aww, I love purple.
@Kirgen Just a FYI... none of the 2's or views I got here have purple video
Now all I can see is nozI
@Raptor_007 please do not be alarmed, we are about to engage the nozzle
I think the name is upside down, so it's NOZI, as in nosy neighbors....
No night vision, Meh
Read reviews at Amazon link first...
"First 100 recordings saved at no charge". How long are the recordings? Then what after 100?
@ojohn If you have to ask you can't afford it. j/k
I wondered that too.
after the first 100 they just stream them to a youtube channel called @ojohn gone wild
@ojohn that's what I can't figure out either.
@ojohn So you can save up to 100 with a limit of 25 recordings taken a day. When you run out of your daily allotment it sends a notification and an image but doesn't save video.
@ojohn "While we continue to investigate the possibility of a subscription service that would allow for some customization, ideally we would like to help you reduce the number of alerts your IZON uploads."
@edrink "Please place your IZON in a closet or other quiet place to assist in reducing the amount of alerts your device issues."
@therealjrn Genius!!!!
Be aware, these cameras do not store or stream video locally -- they stream to the company's cloud, and you view them from there. This may be good for you if you need to view these remotely, but bad for you if you want to keep the video feed inside your home network.
@kensey also means they are Mission Impossible cameras. They self-destruct in concert with the company going defunct.
no local streaming, then monthly fee... meh.
@halnwheels they do have local streaming unlimited,
if you stream over the wan it has a 5 min timeout per camera for live viewing.
There is no fee structure that I can find... people claim that it quits letting them save videos to the servers.... but I have not run into that ever (I don't have a lot of "events" however, that might be the key?) they claim that it offers them no paid option for more recorded events as well... so no idea on that part.
But if you are on the same LAN as the cameras, there is no time out and unlimited streaming... hence my opinion that these are great little easy to setup short term video monitors... but not a great security system (yes you do need internet access to get the lan streaming started, but once they are located it doesn't send the feed up and back in, it does a direct connection with the phone/tablet).
Listen to a whole lecture on security issues with these a couple. Hope they've fixed some of that by now.
https://securityledger.com/2013/10/apple-store-favorite-izon-cameras-riddled-with-security-holes/
what... what happens at 96dB?
@jestermx6 boom.
Are these weather proof?
@mavron
@mavron yes, i think it is ok to install them in your pool
Do these have night vision?
@stevetrocs no, the ones with night vision are the "izon view" these are the "izon 2".
Got some of the "View" previously (the black ones) went on a trip and set these up while I was gone. caught a "ghost" on camera
worth it just to know when the pool guy comes
boastful-unsuitable-bat
Careful with these. I'm the friend referenced here (this really happened):
@jasonmeltzer Wow. Tell us more about what happened. I thought this was just folk lore.
@Kurtois Stem, the company that makes these, was surprisingly open about the situation. Quick synopsis: I was sent a device with a test MAC address. Another person had same address. Mine wouldn't connect. An engineer "fixed" the problem by updating private key, but did it on the wrong account (not knowing there was a collision of addresses). Suddenly I could connect to my camera if it last checked in, the other person's if their's had last checked in.
I was sent a new device, told they would prevent the problem in the future by not allowing duplication of addresses nor allow manual overwrites of keys. Nevertheless, I only use these devices now in situations where I'm comfortable with the possibility of someone else seeing.
@jasonmeltzer Thanks for filling me in on the details.
@jasonmeltzer OMG DO WANT!!!
https://securityledger.com/2013/10/apple-store-favorite-izon-cameras-riddled-with-security-holes/
Is this the company? I know the news article is from 2013 but I would not want to buy anything from a company like this...
@betaRepeating That's them.
I'm a little sketched out about having cameras inside my house. That being said, I used to leave the garage door up all the time, and would be about to fall asleep thinking "Did I?" Go outside, look, and sure enough it was closed.
I set one up in the garage and problem solved. Although new problem created: The signal interfered with the garage door opener.
It seems to me a much better approach is to use "dumb" cameras, and something like iSpy installed locally.
https://www.ispyconnect.com/
https://twitter.com/internetofshit
These camera are perfect. The only problem for me is that when the WiFi connection is good, you cannot see what’s going on until the connection is back up. Which is not on the cameras. They detect sound and movement. Love that feature. I am buying two more with the night vision.
Well, that was not what I anticipated when I purchased these:
Sept 4, 2018
Dear Valued Stem Customer,
We are very sorry to inform you that Izon will cease doing business on September 30th. The Company has been unable to secure funding for continued operations and is winding down. Cameras will continue to operate through the end of September. The customer support desk has been closed and is no longer responding to customer requests.
Thank you for many years of loyal use.
Sincerely,
The Stem Innovation Team
@NoSalt Drat.
Just got the same email. Izon is gone! That blows!!! Is there maybe a tutorial somewhere that shows how to use these cameras another way or with another app?
Yep, same email. More to add to the ewaste recycling pile