“no bullshit basically”
This is basically canned bullshit. Organic cane sugar with a hint of snake oil, er I mean hemp oil. Complete with anecdotal evidence implying efficacy. The only thing missing is the boilerplate that this isn’t intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.
@jayrandom I want someone to start a competitor to vitamin water et al. ‘Canned Bullshit’ It’ll probably be watered down (heh) to ‘Canned Bullsh**’ or something so people might actually stock it.
@troy I definitely wouldn’t assume that. Yes, cbd is one of the things that could be extracted from hemp oil, but there are other things in there too. You might be getting some CBD but it’s very unlikely to be 25 mg.
What’s funny is I was reading about this very topic recently and how the hemp extracts are attracted to the plastic lining in soda cans and how the suggested dosages can be skewed because of this and here we are on my favorite webstore
Any word on which metropolitan water taps this comes from or the environmental costs of packaging and shipping canned sugar water all over the country?
Not to mention the fact that if there were any actual medicinal benefit to this stuff (hemp, CBD, etc - snake oil for the new millenium), then by law it would require a prescription or OTC designation by the FDA.
@mike808 The FDA does not regulate “supplements”. It’s possible to have some medicinal value without being a pharmacy product. Hemp oil may or may not have any medicinal value, but lack of FDA approval doesn’t determine that.
@mehkato You do understand that the whole “may or may not” is complete bullshit. Studies that repeatedly and conclusively prove “do not” are simply not published. It is a sham statement to use the “may or may not” claim to create the lie about, and only about, the positive “may” part of the statement.
If the item had actual, proven medicinal value it would be required to have FDA approval. Buying a lottery ticket doesnt have FDA approval either, but my point isn’t about all the things that don’t have medicinal value. And even if it had some medicinal value, that claim, even for OTC products, must still obtain FDA approval.
It’s the same reason makeup always claims to make you “look younger” or vague references to increase desireable or reduce undesirable visual features (beauty is entirely subjective and in the eye of the beholder) like “reduces baggy eyes” - a term with no medical meaning.
As for CBD or THC, well the first is likely outlawed in many states as a MJ-derived substance with no FDA-approved use, and the latter is only available in some states through a dispensary or other state-licensing mechanism (the FDA is federal, and can’t bypass DOJ and congress on a Schedule 1 “drug” prohibited “with no medicinal value” by fiat.
Thats what the whole legalization fight is about - overturning that language and classification. You can’t conduct testing for medicinal benefits (using federal funds, especially) on a substance the government has already declared as material fact to have no medicinal value.
@mehkato@mike808 To be fair, both DHEA and Melatonin have definite health effects but are ‘non-approved.’
If we’re going to draw fine grained distinctions, we should, perhaps, note that ‘having an FDA approved health claim’ is not the same as ‘having an effect on health.’
The consumer protection (hah) function of the FDA is why supplements get smacked down for unwarranted claims.
If I created ‘Bob’s health tonic’ and it was exclusively made up of ‘generally recognized as safe’ compounds and my marketing made no specific health claims, the FDA would not be up in my business, even if I published fat stacks of studies demonstrating a large benefit to health metrics.
Tl;dr: Claims are regulated by the FDA, not effects
Which is why it is such weasel word BS to just list a bunch of word salad ingredients and “wink, wink - it has the ‘good stuff’ in it” and not actually make any claims at all, relying on uninformed rumor and worse, separate disinformation for the left hand to intentionally deny accountability for whatever the right hand is doing.
Since every “sparkling water” I have ever tried tastes horrible to any juice drink ever or a Coke zero for that matter, hard pass. I seriously doubt the hemp oil will do anything for anything.
@j37hr0 Funny how vodka always ends up being the last stop on the train. If after reading “B.'s” review anyone thinks this is a “cure” for alcohol use disorder God bless you.
@Estaban111 It’s probably just a FedEx placeholder weight. Sometimes it will change to the real weight at another FedEx stop; sometimes it won’t. I wouldn’t worry.
I got my 12 pack of orange flavor the other day. It’s quite good.
Unfortunately, it looks like the company that made it has disappeared. So it’s unlikely I’ll get any more.
@AZnatural1 Actually, Canada Dry’s cranberry ginger ale is delicious. Blood orange and mandarin pair together quite well. Blueberry raspberry pomegranate is a somewhat common smoothie mixture. The flavors are good, it’s the other ingredients that aren’t worth it.
I absolutely don’t understand the claims about hemp oil. It can be good for some nutrient supplementation (and fatty acids) but it doesn’t have anything that’s going to allow you to sleep better or become more relaxed except for a placebo effect. but, it’s hard to criticize the manufacturer because there are plenty of companies willing to make a buck offering these lies…just like MEH.
So it’s a “lack of energy” drink?
Would have bought if it weren’t for the 25g of sugar in a can.
@monotoo same here
@monotoo but that’s what makes it palatable. Otherwise it tastes like moldy old anchor rope.
@carl669 @monotoo For comparison:
Monster 8 oz… 27 g
Rockstar 8 oz… 29 g
Red Bull 12 oz… 37 g
Gatorade or Powerade 20 oz… 34 g
Vitaminwater 20 oz… 27 g
Nesquick 14 oz… 37 g
I kinda think none of these are made to be healthy.
@monotoo Still better for you than artificial sweeteners.
@cinoclav @monotoo 2many2no
that’s why i mostly stick to water, coffee, and dry martinis.
@monotoo yeah… The big zero on the can is a big lie. We know it’s trying to hint zero calories (even if it doesn’t say that).
I intensely dislike companies that do misleading crap like that. Dishonest, companies can all go to hell.
@cinoclav @monotoo They could use Stevia…
@StevenCee That’s the only one I’ll accept, though I try to stay away from it too.
@cinoclav @monotoo this is absolutely incorrect.
@2many2no @monotoo Snickers bar (2.07 oz.)…30 g
The big 0 at the top made me think it was one of those zero calorie drinks. Disappointed to see it’s not
@MrMikenIkes Seriously. What the heck.
@MrMikenIkes I think they’re deliberately trying to trick people with that.
That’s what made me go from “hmmm interesting I like trying new things” to “screw them”.
Funny thing is, I probably wouldn’t care about the 100 calories if it wasn’t for that.
If only it was made 8 days later …
@narfcake oh boy, I was so upset when I learned this. Thankfully we could still make the 4/20 joke work
@troy True. Also I’m now wondering who will get the honors to be the 4/20 goat …
@narfcake or 11 days earlier
First, what a relief. And second, that isn’t saying much, is it?
@RedOak “best smelling turd”
Wheres the 4 each flavor pack?
Plus agree with sugar post above.
No thanks
What no mixed flavor pack?
@jml326 That’s the only reason I’m not buying this.
“no bullshit basically”
This is basically canned bullshit. Organic cane sugar with a hint of snake oil, er I mean hemp oil. Complete with anecdotal evidence implying efficacy. The only thing missing is the boilerplate that this isn’t intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.
@jayrandom This.
@jayrandom I want someone to start a competitor to vitamin water et al. ‘Canned Bullshit’ It’ll probably be watered down (heh) to ‘Canned Bullsh**’ or something so people might actually stock it.
You misspelled pop
@lichme Tonic
@Bumplepimp @lichme Coke
I just want to point out that 25 mg of hemp oil extract is not the same as 25 mg of cbd
@christinerenee Yup. Not even a good source of omega 3.
@christinerenee I have a feeling they simply renamed CBD to hemp to avoid higher scrutiny in the marketplace https://www.bevnet.com/news/2018/acme-naturals-releases-tree-zero-sparkling-juice-infused-cbd
@christinerenee but it does have 25 g of C12H22O11
@troy I definitely wouldn’t assume that. Yes, cbd is one of the things that could be extracted from hemp oil, but there are other things in there too. You might be getting some CBD but it’s very unlikely to be 25 mg.
Not sure how to smoke this stuff…
@daveinwarsh Underwater?
Will it give me more male stamina?
@medz No, but the can can be used as an alternative.
hmm. a thousand times more sugar than hemp. I guess firesign theatre was right: “more sugar!” “don’t take off your shoes!”
@docflash
great reference!
all new meaning to the phrase “pissing up a rope”
BARF!
inb4 sold out because people buy anything with hemp in it.
These sound like they’d taste like dirt. Sparkling dirt.
@vinuash but it was voted “best tasting hemp drink”…so already I’m concerned about the taste of hemp…
@amehzinggrace Hemp tastes quite earthy, something similar in palate to the likes of Oolong tea mixed with stale unsalted almonds.
“Cranberry Ginger”… (CONTAINS NO CRANBERRY. CONTAINS NO GINGER.)
Sigh - no high, no buy.
My order number is “distasteful-soggy-light” which seems disturbingly apropos.
If I bite and can pass a urine test, will you hire me?
I almost want this.
@f00l Me too even though I just pointed out above that hemp oil extract does not mean CBD.
What’s funny is I was reading about this very topic recently and how the hemp extracts are attracted to the plastic lining in soda cans and how the suggested dosages can be skewed because of this and here we are on my favorite webstore
I got a case today and immediately drank one. It was cranberry/ginger and was very good.
I ordered like 9 12 packs. They all got delivered by a pissed off FedEx Ground Lady!
Every twelve pack was wrapped in bubble wrap! About 3 per box! That’s what I’m paying for! Hurrah!
It all tastes really good!
No can sugar.
Hemp with natural fruit juice, to make you hungry and not at the same time. Does this sound too good, like snake oil?
Sure, 25mg of hemp oil MIGHT help chill you out, but you’ll be all hyped up and jittery from the 25g of sugar.
Got mine yesterday. Kinda sweet, not a fan. Probably take it to work with a free drink sign on it. They’ll drink anything
@Bunnymiller I heard they are coming out with a sugar free or reduced sugar option soon
Any word on which metropolitan water taps this comes from or the environmental costs of packaging and shipping canned sugar water all over the country?
Not to mention the fact that if there were any actual medicinal benefit to this stuff (hemp, CBD, etc - snake oil for the new millenium), then by law it would require a prescription or OTC designation by the FDA.
The FDA — Putting the D into 'Murica.
@mike808 The FDA does not regulate “supplements”. It’s possible to have some medicinal value without being a pharmacy product. Hemp oil may or may not have any medicinal value, but lack of FDA approval doesn’t determine that.
@mehkato You do understand that the whole “may or may not” is complete bullshit. Studies that repeatedly and conclusively prove “do not” are simply not published. It is a sham statement to use the “may or may not” claim to create the lie about, and only about, the positive “may” part of the statement.
If the item had actual, proven medicinal value it would be required to have FDA approval. Buying a lottery ticket doesnt have FDA approval either, but my point isn’t about all the things that don’t have medicinal value. And even if it had some medicinal value, that claim, even for OTC products, must still obtain FDA approval.
It’s the same reason makeup always claims to make you “look younger” or vague references to increase desireable or reduce undesirable visual features (beauty is entirely subjective and in the eye of the beholder) like “reduces baggy eyes” - a term with no medical meaning.
As for CBD or THC, well the first is likely outlawed in many states as a MJ-derived substance with no FDA-approved use, and the latter is only available in some states through a dispensary or other state-licensing mechanism (the FDA is federal, and can’t bypass DOJ and congress on a Schedule 1 “drug” prohibited “with no medicinal value” by fiat.
Thats what the whole legalization fight is about - overturning that language and classification. You can’t conduct testing for medicinal benefits (using federal funds, especially) on a substance the government has already declared as material fact to have no medicinal value.
It’s like the opening sequence of Fargo Season 3.
@mehkato @mike808 To be fair, both DHEA and Melatonin have definite health effects but are ‘non-approved.’
If we’re going to draw fine grained distinctions, we should, perhaps, note that ‘having an FDA approved health claim’ is not the same as ‘having an effect on health.’
The consumer protection (hah) function of the FDA is why supplements get smacked down for unwarranted claims.
If I created ‘Bob’s health tonic’ and it was exclusively made up of ‘generally recognized as safe’ compounds and my marketing made no specific health claims, the FDA would not be up in my business, even if I published fat stacks of studies demonstrating a large benefit to health metrics.
Tl;dr: Claims are regulated by the FDA, not effects
@kizen99 @mehkato
Which is why it is such weasel word BS to just list a bunch of word salad ingredients and “wink, wink - it has the ‘good stuff’ in it” and not actually make any claims at all, relying on uninformed rumor and worse, separate disinformation for the left hand to intentionally deny accountability for whatever the right hand is doing.
And this product trips all the red flags here.
Since every “sparkling water” I have ever tried tastes horrible to any juice drink ever or a Coke zero for that matter, hard pass. I seriously doubt the hemp oil will do anything for anything.
No thanks- Hate all the flavors, hate sparkling H2O, and have to pass random drug screens, as does SWMBO.
I was about to buy until I realized it was “hemp” oil, not “hump” oil. Sorry honey - we’ll just have to try something else.
@Kenbo yeah. Still waiting for KY jelly infused soda.
@Kenbo @OnionSoup
But, but why? ew.
@Kenbo @OnionSoup @therealjrn It makes you slippery ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@jmkiii @Kenbo @OnionSoup
Now, I’m no expert, but I think yer doing it wrong.
/giphy flirty-fussy-can
Mandarin Blood Orange Hemp Infused Soda… C’mon , I had to try it.
Sugar crashes tend to relax you I guess.
Get out of here!!
@Bumplepimp I wouldn’t mind getting dirty with that hippy on the right.
Tree below zero … the can can be used as a Norwegian thermometer. It’s always tree below zero there
This is a shine- er, sparking example of something that can be done, but probably shouldn’t be done. But a fool is born every minute…
I’m a vodka man myself.
@j37hr0 Funny how vodka always ends up being the last stop on the train. If after reading “B.'s” review anyone thinks this is a “cure” for alcohol use disorder God bless you.
Hah - more VMP bait!
/buy --flavor “Mandarin Blood Orange”
@ManBehindPlan It worked! Your order number is: deranged-fictitious-noise
/image deranged fictitious noise
Sounds totally disgusting.
Oh man! I couldn’t help myself.
/giphy respectful-flirtatious-sphinx
@moonhat I can respect that.
@moonhat I pressed F.
/image press f
I ordered 1, 12 pack of each flavor. How does the package only weigh 1 lb according to fedex?
@Estaban111 It’s probably just a FedEx placeholder weight. Sometimes it will change to the real weight at another FedEx stop; sometimes it won’t. I wouldn’t worry.
I got my 12 pack of orange flavor the other day. It’s quite good.
Unfortunately, it looks like the company that made it has disappeared. So it’s unlikely I’ll get any more.
@lumpthar they are coming out with new packaging and additional formulas so you should see them again soon. It appears they are available here:
Specs
What’s in the Box?
Price Comparison
$37.97 at Amazon
Warranty
90 days
Estimated Delivery
Monday, August 3rd - Monday, August 10th
It’s the flavors that seem off to me: cranberry ginger?
Blood orange. Mandarin?
Blueberry raspberry pomegranate?
Blech
@AZnatural1 Actually, Canada Dry’s cranberry ginger ale is delicious. Blood orange and mandarin pair together quite well. Blueberry raspberry pomegranate is a somewhat common smoothie mixture. The flavors are good, it’s the other ingredients that aren’t worth it.
I absolutely don’t understand the claims about hemp oil. It can be good for some nutrient supplementation (and fatty acids) but it doesn’t have anything that’s going to allow you to sleep better or become more relaxed except for a placebo effect. but, it’s hard to criticize the manufacturer because there are plenty of companies willing to make a buck offering these lies…just like MEH.
One more!
/buy --flavor “Blueberry Raspberry Pomegranate”
@ManBehindPlan It worked! Your order number is: hairy-lyrical-memory
/image hairy lyrical memory
CBD is silly, so I’d like to eat them!
CBD is silly but this seems like a good deal on croix-alike! especially with home delivery by UPS!
cute, but nah.
I click “meh” to weed out offers like this.
@ThunderChicken How’s that working out for you?
@therealjrn If the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a differerent result, I’m completely gone.
Got one case yesterday and the other two today. THANKS
@marknmd How is it? Any good?
yummy but wayyyy too sweet for me liking
The address is wrong. (Address deleted)
@foxyfood I have deleted your address from your comment. You need to contact meh.com/support